Portal talk:Domesday survey

Latest comment: 12 days ago by 181.106.243.235 in topic Scans
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Portal Domesday survey
Classification DA
Class D: World History
Subclass A: History of Great Britain
Classifier AdamBMorgan
Reviewer
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To carry discussion forward: there are some translations into English of parts of Domesday that will be public domain. One way to look at the issue is to divide it up county-by-county, which coincides with an approach adopted in scholarly editions. There are apparently translations of Domesday in some parts of the Victoria County Histories; and depending on publication date these may have fallen into the public domain. So perhaps we should consider structuring this portal around counties, also. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:28, 4 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

I've compiled a list of all the obviously distinct titles on Internet Archive, providing search links where there are more than one seemingly similar).
I don't mind how the portal is laid out. I have used chronological order so it was easier to avoid duplicates.
Many of the older volumes in Portal:Victoria County History are on Internet Archive; we need to organise them, sorting out the volumes, and pick the best set of pagescans. Where Internet Archive doesnt have the volumes we need, we should be able to source them easily from libraries which often contain reprints that can be scanned and uploaded. Once we work out which ones are needed, this task can be easily distributed.
John Vandenberg (chat) 08:39, 5 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

offline resources edit

In addition to these, below are some other related items that I can access, but are probably copyright. They will likely contain PD excerpts.

  • Domesday : 900 years of England's Norman heritage, London : Published jointly by Millbank Publications and the National Committee for the 900th Anniversary of the Domesday Book, c1986. (xv, 192 p. : ill. (some col.) ; 30 cm.)
  • Finn, Rex Welldon, Domesday book, London : Jackdaw no. 39, 1967. (10 broadsheets)
  • John Morris Domesday book, Chichester : Phillimore, 1975- (v. 2-3, 5-6, 8, 10-12, 18-21, 23-24, 26-29)
  • Great Domesday (Library ed.) London : Alecto Historical Editions, 1986-1992. (6 v. : maps, facsims. ; 44 cm.)
  • McDonald, John (1945-) and G.D. Snooks, Domesday economy: a new approach to Anglo-Norman history, Oxford : Clarendon Press ; New York : Oxford University Press, 1986. ISBN 0198285248 (xv, 240 p. ; 24 cm.)
  • Christopher Holdsworth Domesday essays, University of Exeter, 1986. (82 p. : ill., maps ; 21 cm.) (Series: Exeter studies in history ; no. 14)
  • Ravensdale, J. R. (with photographs by Richard Muir), The Domesday inheritance, London : Souvenir Press, 1986. (176 p.)
  • Fleming, Robin, Domesday Book and the law: society and legal custom in early medieval England, Cambridge : Cambridge University Press, 1998. (xix, 548p. : ill. ; 26c.m.)
  • Morgan, Philip (1953-), Domesday Book and the local historian, London : Historical Association (199?) (43 p. : ill., facsim., maps ; 21 cm.)

Let me know if you want me to look at any of them, or scan pages, etc. John Vandenberg (chat) 00:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

CC-NC-SA translation edit

Here is a CC-NC-SA translation; it appears to also be included in these databases. Unless someone can convince them to relicense, we will need to build our own. John Vandenberg (chat) 05:28, 5 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

Scans edit

A set of folio scans for some counties  : http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22domesdaybook%22

These appear to be CC-BY-SA according to http://domesdaymap.co.uk/about/, the dataset being put out by Hull University.

Could someone on WikiSource that works with GLAM, advise on how to get these scans and if needed a translation onto WikiSource?

Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:59, 20 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

As the scans are on archive.org, they can be added to Wikisource through the normal method of uploading them to Commons and starting Index pages. Glancing through them, this might be a job for Latin Wikisource. For translation into English... I'm not sure but it might be possible to do that with Wikisource volunteers. (I don't know if we need anyone with GLAM experience for this but, if so, the only person I know of is User:Dominic if you want to ask him for further advice.) - AdamBMorgan (talk) 00:15, 22 February 2012 (UTC)Reply
Most of what is on archive.org has already been uploaded to Commons:Category:Domesday Book scans, the only thing missing is for someone capable of reading that medieval gibberish to transcribe it into Wikisource in Latin so that it can later be translated. --181.106.243.235 08:54, 7 April 2024 (UTC)Reply