Page:Notes and Queries - Series 11 - Volume 11.djvu/165

This page needs to be proofread.

ii s. XL FEB. 20, i9i5.] NOTES AND QUERIES.


TICHBORNE STREET (11 S. xi. 67.) I have now ascertained from the ' Post Office Directory ' that throughout the period from 1845 (when Roger Tichborne came from France to England) till 1853 (when he went to South America), 25, Tichborne Street, was a tavern with the sign of " The Horse- shoe," and the landlord's name was Owen Swift. The only mistake which the Claim- ant's friend Willoughby made about it was that he called the sign " The Horsehoe and Magpie." There were, however, taverns in London which had that sign ; and therefore it is not very surprising that Mr. Willoughby, years after he had seen the tavern in Tich- borne Street, imagined that it was one of them. " The -Black Horse," which I men- tioned, was at No, 5. W, A. FROST,

REGENT CIRCUS (11 S. x. 313, 373, 431, 475; xi. 14, 51, 98). I cannot agree with MR. TOM JONES that the map in the 'Post Office Directory for 1865' in- dicates that Coventry Street began at the north-east corner of Lower Regent Street. On the contrary, it shows that it only began as it does now at the north-east corner of the Haymarket. It is true that the word Piccadilly is not printed on the small space between the Circus and the Haymarket, tout that is evidently because there was not room, especially as the word Circus spreads into it. But if the map left the matter in any doubt, the Street Directory in the same volume makes it perfectly clear that the nouses between Regent Circus and the Hay- market formed part of Piccadilly. I may ay that in my youth I was acquainted with the tenant of one of these houses, and the Directory shows that his house was 228, Piccadilly. W. A. FROST.

RETROSPECTIVE HERALDRY (11 S. xi. 28, 77). " Quot homines tot sententiae." For my part, I thought the title of G. J.'s article at the earlier reference rather a happy one. I cannot admit the criticism of LEO C. (p. 78) that, because " arms are not granted to dead men " (which I do admit), therefore it is incorrect to call the operation by which after their death practically that effect can be given " retrospective." If a grant can be made to a man "and to the other descendants of his grandfather" (according to some of the instances I gave, p. 78), surely the brothers of the grantee must make their claim through their dead father. Is not this " retrospective heraldry " every bit as much as the operative effect of a statute affecting

the status of persons or things before the date of the passing of the Act is called retrospective ?

LEO C. states that similar patents were issued " hundreds of years ago." I have only been able to cite the modern instances I gathered from Mr. Fox-Davies's book. Will LEO C. kindly tell me and give the authority of the earliest instance of this he knows ? J. S. UDAL, F.S.A.

" TUNDISH " = FUNNEL (11 S. xi. 106). I am both surprised and sorry to hear that this word has gone out of use in Notting- hamshire. It was very common in the south of the county when I was a boy. " To tun," or pour liquids into a cask, is (or was) in general use : it occurs in Bailey and Walker. In Lincolnshire the usual word for " funnel " is '" tunnel." Tun, by the way, as a verb, had one very unpleasant use in my boyhood. If we refused medicine, our elders and betters would " tun " it into us, i.e., hold our noses so that we were forced to swallow it. C. C. B.

"Tunmill" used to be the word for " funnel " in Cumberland when I was a boy, but I am not sufficiently in touch with persons speaking the dialect to know whether it is in use now. DIEGO.

" Tundish " was the common name for a funnel in North Staffordshire thirty years ago, and no doubt is still used. It is to be found in ' Cassell's Encyclopaedic Dictionary,' 1888 ; and Mr. C. T. Onions, in his ' Shake- speare Glossary,' says that it is still the ordinary word in Warwickshire.


About here " tundish " is still the common name for a funnel. An elderly Lancashire working-man of my acquaintance said he had never heard the word "funnel" ; they always called them, whether big or little, wooden or metal, tundishes. ' Chambers's Twentieth Century Dictionary ' has " Tun- dish, a wooden funnel."

W. H. PINCHBECK. Bury, Lanes.

This word is duly recorded by Wright. I have frequently seen the utensil in evi- dence on brewing days in both my grand- father's and father's time at the North- amptonshire home of my boyhood. This old farm-house and its outbuildings (in which the brew -house is included) are now in course of demolition.