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NOTES AND QUERIES. m s . v. MAY n, 1912.


SOUTH CAROLINA NEWSPAPERS (11 S. iv. 168). According to the British Museum Catalogue, only one copy of The South Carolina Gazette, under the dates specified in the query, is found on file at the Library. It is a single sheet, of 4to size, dated " Charles Town 1740," and relates to the reception of George Whitefield in New England. There are other copies of South Carolina newspapers in the Library, but the years of issue are later than those required. W. S. S.

BYRON AND THE SIDNEY FAMILY (11 S. v. 268). Sir William Sidney's third daughter, Anne, married Sir William Fitzwilliam, whose daughter Margaret (according to Mrs. Hutchinson) married Sir John Biron, K.B., and became the mother of John, first Lord Byron ; Richard, second Lord (ancestor of the poet), and five other sons ; and of Margaret, who, by her marriage with Sir Thomas Hutchinson, Kt., became the mother of Col. John Hutchinson the Regicide. But according to the ' D.N.B.' the mother of John, first Lord Byron, was Anne, daughter of Sir Richard Molineux of Sefton, Lanca- shire. A. R. BAYLEY.

" WHAT YOU BUT SEE WHEN YOU HAVEN'T A GUN " (10 S. ix. 108, 217, 493 ; x. 38, 255). This saying, attributed at many of the above references to America, appears to have had its origin in this country. The following proverbs are given in ' Collections by Vincent Stuckey Lean,' 1902-4, iii. 391 :

" A boundless hunter and a gunless gunner see ay game enough." K.

" A houndless hunter and a gunless gunner see routh 'o game." Ry.

" A houndless man comes to the best hunting." Ferg.

K.= James Kelly, ' Scottish Proverbs,' 1721.

Ry. = Allan Ramsay, ' A Collection of Scots Proverbs,' 1737 ; another edition, 1797.

Ferg. =David Fergusson [died 1598], 'Scot- tish Proverbs,' 1641 ; another edition, 107*5.

See the ' List of Authorities referred to,' iv. 265, and the ' List of Abbreviations of Names of Authorities,' ibid., 373.

ROBERT PIERPOINT.

THE THAMES (11 S. v. 45, 225, 332). By a stupid blunder, in my reply at the last reference I wrote Tiverton on the Tamar quasi Tamar-town, whereas I meant Tavis- tock on the Tavy. Tiverton, of course, stands at the junction of the Exe and the Loman, the name being interpreted as a contraction of Twyfordtown.

HERBERT MAXWELL.


VANISHING LONDON : THE SARDINIAN ARCHWAY (11 S. v. 267, 351). I may supple- ment my reply by mentioning that in The Pall Mall Gazette for 29 January there was not only a good view of the archway, but an excellent suggestion that the keystone of the arch, inscribed with the old name " Dyke Streete, 1648," should find its- fitting place in the new London Museum. It is to be hoped that the authorities may see their way to carrying out tliis suggestion- W. F. PRIDEAUX.

"BELLS OF ARMS" (11 S. v. 249). From 'An Universal Military Dictionary,' by Capt. George Smith, 1779 :

" Bells of Arms, a kind of tents in the shape- of a cone, where the company's arms are lodged in the field. They are generally painted with the colour of the facing of the regiment, and the king's arms in front."

From ' The Military Encyclopaedia,' by J. H. Stocqueler, London, 1853 :

" Bells of Arms, tents in front of the quarters of each company of infantry, in which the arms are piled. In Indian cantonments, for sepoy regiments, the bells of arms are of masonry."

At the present day bells of arms still exist in the lines of native regiments in India,, and therein the rifles are always stored, and locked up, when not actually in use by the men. J. H. L.

Bells of arms wore bell-shaped tents to shelter soldiers' firearms in an encampment. Humphrey Bland, in his ' Military Discipline/ 1740, gives minute instructions as to the position of the bell of arms of the quarter- guard and of the bells of arms of the battalion, accompanied by a plan of an encampment showing these positions (pp. 246-7). Simes, in his ' Military Medley/ 1768, describes the manner in which bells of arms were painted with the king's cipher, &c. (pp. 250-55). W. S.

I suggest that " bells of arms," in the royal warrant quoted, may have the same mean- ing as the term " bells-of-arms," which occurs in accounts of the Indian Mutiny, and apparently means tents or other receptacles in which guns, &c.. are stored. Thus, of the outbreak at Berhampore :

" There was a general rush to the bells-of-arms. Men seized their muskets, took forcible possession of the dreaded ammunition," &c. Kaye's ' Sepoy War,' bk. iii. chap. iv.

See also the ' N.E.D./ ' Bell/ sb., 1, 6 e.

RACILIA.