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In vol. i. (1834), on p. xii of the Preface to the ' Manual/ Lowndes says :
" Gratitude demands a strong acknowledgement to the late William Meredith, Esq., under whose hospitable roof this Manual was commenced in Ihe year 1820."
This Preface is dated 1 Jan., 1834. This William Meredith was in all probability the one who was living from 1803 to 1831 at 3, Harley Place, Devonshire Place, W. He died 9 July, 1831, at the above address, aged 74. The Gent. Mag., The Times, and The Morning Chronicle all announce his death. It will be noticed above that Lowndes, writing in 1834, alludes to William Meredith as " the late."
One of the earliest reviews of Lowndes's ' Manual ' appears in The Retrospective Review, Second Series, vol. ii. pt. ii., 1828, p. 347. A. L. HUMPHREYS.
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NICHOLAS HERLE, M.P. FOR GRAMPOUND, 1679 (11 S. vi. 209). According to the Herle pedigree in Vivian's ' Visitations of Cornwall,' as amplified by a note at p. 640 of the ' Addenda/ this M.P. died in London,
1682, leaving by his wife Elizabeth, dau.
of Reed of Upton Pyne, two sons, viz.,
Edward, bapt, 12 April, 1682 (afterwards M.P. for Launceston, 1713-21), and Nicholas, the latter a posthumous son, bapt. 3 June,
1683, who became a barrister of the Inner Temple. The date of death of Nicholas is not supplied by Vivian, but there is little doubt of his being the Nicholas Herle who died in 1728. His obituary notice in ' The Political State of Great Britain ' for that year is identical with that quoted by DUN- HEVED from The Norwich Mercury, with the addition of his description as " of Launceston, Cornwall." But there is one mistake in the announcement. Nicholas Herle was never at any time High Sheriff of Cornwall. His wife, who is stated by Vivian to have
been Elizabeth, dau. of Rev. Acland,
died 25 Dec., 1714. M.I. at St. Mary Magdalen, Launceston. The Sheriff of Corn- wall at that time was Joseph Silly of Hellig- ham, but he entered upon office only on the
30 Nov. previously, in succession to Edward
Herle, the elder brother of Nicholas. This
possibly gave rise to the confusion in the
obituary announcement. I may, perhaps,
add that the Herle pedigree an interesting
family- is, so far as printed, in anything but
a satisfactory condition, particularly in the
closing generations. W. D. PINK.
Lowton, Newton-le- Willows.
SIR WATKIN WILLIAMS WYNN : is. THE PRINCE IN WALES (US. vi. 211). There is a tradition in North Wales that Sir Watkin, the fifth baronet of Wynnstay, was called even "The Prince of Wales" by George, the Prince Regent, in 1815. I have never seen it attributed either to the Duke of York or the Duke of Clarence. Let that suffice about the " when " of the query.
As to its " why," reference must be made to the high war fever of that age. Wales was infected like the rest of the country. Sir Watkin was a daring soldier witness the part he took with his regiment (" Sir Watkin' s Lambs " alias " The Bloody Brittons") in quelling the Irish Rebellion of 1798 ; and also his equipping a regiment for the war in France in 1814, and arriving with it only just too late to take part in the famous Battle of Toulouse. Too late or not, the will was taken for the deed, and the baronet became the darling of his nation a nation famous for the warmth of its hero-worshipping when its imagination is touched. On St. David's Day, 1815, the baronet appeared in London, and the recep- tion he had there from the Welsh, and all they could influence, was so enthusiastic that, when he was presented to the Prince Regent, his Royal Highness is reputed to have said, " Surely you must be the Prince of Wales ! " "No, your Royal Highness," said Sir Richard Puleston, who was present, " Sir Watkin is the Prince in Wales." Let that suffice for the " why " of the query. Such is the tradition, and I give it for what it is worth. T. LLECHID JONES.
Yspytty Vicarage, Bettws-y-Coed.
The Duke of Clarence's nickname for the head of the Wynns of Wynnstay evidently referred to the vast possessions owned by him in the Principality. A. R. BAYLEY.
Sir W. Wynn was traditionally called "the King of North Wales," and Sir C. Morgan (now Lord Tredegar) "the King of South Wales." Is it not probable that William IV. (when Duke of Clarence) made some allusion to this circumstance ?
G. W. E. RUSSELL.
