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NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. 11. NOV. n, me.
however, i . u-ed in more senses than one.
"We used to distinguish, in South Nott>,
between ringing and chiming ; the bells
were rung when they were fully swung
chimed when they were half-swung, as was
usually t he c:i,se when calling us to service. I
do not mention this as having any bearing on
the matter under discussion, but I should
like to know the reason for such a distinction.
C. C. B.
LKCAL MACARONICS (7 S. i. 346; 11 S- iii. ; ; 12 S. ii. 335). MB. THORNTON, at the last reference, inquires about the Ardens. For Edward Arden see the ' D.N.B.' and 10 S. ix. 1S4, and for the family generally see the Harleian Society's Publications, vol. xii. JOHN B. WAINEWRIGKT.
PI.VMSTEAD LLOYD (12 S. ii. 310). Plumstead Lloyd, born Oct. 7, 1780, married first Frances Isabella, daughter of J. Beten- son, Esq., of Ipswich, and by her (who died Sept. 18, 1816) had surviving issue : (1) Mary Elizabeth, married her cousin Edward Lloyd, Esq.; (2) Emma; (3) Isabella, married Henry Russell, Esq., of Toronto, Canada. Plumstead Lloyd married secondly Jane, daughter of John Howell, Esq., and by her had issue a daughter, Jane Howell.
Mrs. ANDERSON will find an account of Plumstead Lloyd in the ' Pedigree of the Lloyds of Dolobran, co. Montgomery,' re- printed from Burke' s ' Landed Gentry,' 1st ed., 1836, with some corrections and addi- tions, by Mrs. Richard Harman Lloyd for private circulation, 1877.
LEONARD C. PRICE.
Essex Lodge, Ewell.
Would ' Charles Lamb and the Lloyds ' (Smith <fc Elder), by E. V. Lucas, published about [November, 1898, assist ?
R. J. FYNMORE.
1 can give a reply to my own question, as since sending it to ' N. & Q.' I have been fortunate enough to see a manuscript letter of Robert Lloyd to Manning, dated May 4, 1801, in which he says: "My brother Plumstead is settled here in a large brewery." G. A. ANDERSON.
The Moorlands, Woldingham, Surrey.
The references at the end of the article on the elder Charles Lloyd in ' D.N.B.,' xxxiii. 410, may be helpful.
A. R. BAYLEY.
For the pedigree of the Lloyd family consult George W. Marshall's 'Genealogist's Guide,' which contains a list of references.
E. E. BARKEB.
AUTHORS WANTED (12 S. ii. 329).
"Heaven would not be Heaven wpre thy soul not with mine ; nor would Hell be Hell were our souls together."
See Baptista Mantuanus (Spagnolo) r ' Eclogue ' iii. 1 08, sqq. :
Sive ad Felices vadam post funera campos,
Sen ferar ardentem rapidi Phlegethontis ad undam,.
Nee sine te felix ero, nee tecum miser unquara.
We may compare Bardolph's wish when he- hears that Falstaff is dead :
" Would I were with him, wheresome'er he is, either in heaven or in hell ! " ' K. Henry|V.,' Act II. sc. iii.
EDWARD BENSLY.
The same sentiment appears in Sir Walter Scott's translation of one of Burger's ballads r
O mother, mother, what is bliss?
O mother, what is bale ? Without my William what were heaven,
Or with him what were hell ?
SUSANNA CORNER. Lenton Hall, Nottingham.
C. LAMB : ' MRS. BATTLE'S OPINIONS ONT WHIST': OF CHIMNEY FIREPLACES (12 S. ii. 266). On the marble mantelpiece in the drawing-room at Cefn Mably, Glamorgan- shire, the ancient seat of the Kemeys family,, is the following inscription : " Tan da, parfh glan, a llodes llawen." Translated : " A good fire, a clean hearth, and a merry lass ""
D. K. T.
NAVAL RECORDS WANTED ( 12S. ii. 330, 375). D. B. should write to the Admiralty and War Office for permission to inspect the Naval and Military Records at the Public Record Office, Chancery Lane, stating particulars of his search. The earliest returns of naval officers' services begin in 1817. There is also a complete index to all the officers' corre- spondence with the Admiralty, which might prove of great interest. I believe the earliest returns of military officers' services begin in 1828, although there are some of an earlier date of officers of the highest grades.
O'Byrne's ' Naval Biography ' should be consulted if D. B.'s ancestor was living about 1840. A. H. MACLEAN.
14 Dean Road, Willesden Green.
"DRIBLOWS" (12 S. ii. 269). This may, I think, be a misreading, or (as the inventory referred to is printed) a typographical error, and the word should perhaps be " doublers," i.e., dishes " great and small." See Halli- well's 'Dictionary of Archaic Words' (fifth edition), vol. i. p. 312, and the ' E.D.D.,* vol. ii. p. 133. In the form " dobler " the word is as early as 1360; and in Cumberland
