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the college by Thomas Dingley, who died in 1695, in his ' History from Marble ' (see the Camden Society's photolithographic repro- duction, 1867-8, vol. i. p. xciv). But I sus- pect that Dingley borrowed herein from the 'Display.' His text repeats, with verbal alterations, Guillim 's text, as cited (in part) at the first reference. In the "Table of Contents" to the Camden Society's repro- duction the lilies are assigned by mistake to New College, Oxford.

5. In Papworth and Morant's 'Ordinary of British Arms' (1874), p. 861, "Sable, three lilies proper," are attributed to Winchester city as well as to Winchester College. (But see also pp. 371, 545-6.) The city was evi- dently using its present well-known arms (with five castles and two lions) at the end of the sixteenth century. See Woodward's 4 Hampshire,' i. 276, n., where mention is made of the seal with these arms set in a ring given to the corporation by Edward White in 1600. Nevertheless, in ' Analogia Honorum,' a work appended to the 1679 and 1724 editions of Guillim's ' Display,' it was stated that the city's arms were " Sable, three lilies proper." This book was probably one of Papworth and Morant's authorities. I abstain from guesswork as to the source of the statement in ' Analogia.' The authors of 'The Book of Public Arms ' (1894), p. 55, refer to a manu- script book in "Ulster's Office," which (they say) assigns Sable, three lilies argent, leaved vert, to Winchester city ; but they give no information about the date of this manu- script.

6. Three lilies appear on one of the shields which adorn the portrait of "Florence de Lunn, Esq r , First Mayor of Winchester, A.D. 1184," forming the frontispiece to 'The His- tory and Antiquities of Winchester' (1773), vol. ii But this portrait is a sham antique (cf. 3 rd S. viii. 243), and I would suggest that its engraver, I. Taylor, produced it by copy- ing, with small variations of detail, Grignion's engraving of the portrait of Henry Fitz- alwine, first Lord Mayor of London, as it appears in Entick's ' New History of London ' (1766), vol. ii., frontispiece. The resemblance between the engravings is too great to be the result of mere chance. The question whether Taylor intended the lilies for the arms of the city is therefore of no great importance.

7. Pleasant theories as to the origin of the lilies in the coats of Eton College and Mag- dalen College, Oxford, may be built upon the hypothesis that lilies were "the old arms " of Winchester College, which reckons amongst its head masters Waynflete, after-


wards head master and provost of Eton and founder of Magdalen. But that hypo- thesis cannot be regarded as safe in the absence of satisfactory evidence that Win- chester College had a grant of these arms or assumed them. Vincent and Guillim are great authorities, but bare statements by them concerning the college arms seem to be outweighed by the evidence which goes to show that the college has always used its founder's arms as its own, and has never borne arms with lilies in them. See the extract from Mr. R. T. Warner's book at the first reference.

8. In the article mentioned at the second reference Mr. E. E. Dorling argued that Guillim confused Winchester College with Magdalen, and he explained the confusion by suggesting that Magdalen was originally known as Winchester College, Oxford. The weakness of this explanation seems to me to lie in the lack of proof that Magdalen was, in fact, known by that name. Its founder dedicated it to many patron saints of Win- chester Cathedral, but he styled it "Seynte Mary Magdalen College in the Universite of Oxon vulgariter nuncupatum." See the pre- fatory clauses of the college statutes in 4 Statutes of the Colleges of Oxford ' (1853), vol. ii. p. 5. Consequently the statement in Dr. Woodward's ' Ecclesiastical Heraldry ' (1894), p. 431, that the college was " founded

under the name of Winchester College,"

seems to be erroneous. H. C.

In ' The Particuler Description of England, with Portratures of the Cheiffest Citties and Townes,' by William Smith, Rouge Dragon, dated 1588 (B.M., Sloane MS. No. 2596), there is on leaf 27 a profile sketch of the city of Winchester with a shield Sable, three garden lilies slipped proper in the right-hand top corner, as if these were the arms of the city. Smith makes, however, no statement to that effect. E. E. DORLING.

Burcombe Vicarage, Salisbury.


HYMN ON THE BIRTH OF KING EDWARD VII. (9 th S. x. 1). The note with the well-known signature of J. S. S. reminds me of how often we sang this hymn in years gone by. It was set to Haydn's music, the Austrian National Anthem, and was included in Hul- lah's Part-Music : Sacred Songs, published at first by John W. Parker in 1842, and now by Novello & Co. Among many poems by Chorley was one, a prayer for peace, " Give to us peace in our time, O Lord." This was set to the music of the Russian National Anthem, and was frequently sung at the time