Talk:Bible (Wycliffe)/2 Paralipomenon
The Prayer of Manasses edit
There are only 36 chapters in the book 2 Paralipomenon (aka 2 Chronicles). Although the Prayer of Manasses appears in some Bibles immediately after 2 Chronicles, it was never done so as chapter 37 thereof. ParaTExt/USFM allocates it to a separate book in the identification page in the USFM User Reference.
84 MAN Prayer of Manasseh Sometimes appended to 2 Chronicles, included in Orthodox Bibles
I propose that we do the same here, in order to avoid versification issues due to having a chapter number that is not used in any canon, Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox or Jewish. David Haslam (talk) 20:09, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- Yet to insert a book in the Wycliffe Bible would also require updating the locked template {{Biblecontents}} used throughout these documents. This would require admin privilege, as well as the necessary competence. David Haslam (talk) 08:01, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
- As the above proposal is too difficult to implement without admin rights, I have taken the expedient of merely splitting the prayer into 14 verses accoridng to how it's versified in the later King James Bible (1611, 1769) editions that include the Apocrypha. Anyone using this document to source derivative works needs to bear in mind that this is better treated as a separate book rather than as chapter 37. David Haslam (talk) 15:32, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
We usually try to hew to the organization of the text we're basing the digitization off of. The main talk page suggests that the Wesley Center Online is an original edition? Or at least it's not clear what their source is? If you're emending it to follow another particular edition and they organize it so the prayer is separate I can make the template change if it's useful. Prosody (talk) 00:46, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
In more modern bibles(than the King James Version, not the wiclif), the Prayer of Manasas is usually 15 verses. The Deuterocannonical/Apocryphal books have changed in their versification more than the protocannonical. Keep that in mind. JustinCB (talk) 22:00, 1 August 2017 (UTC)