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Adding/requesting a editor/admin toolEdit

How can I request a tool development or add a tool: I want to have a simple voting system designed or a template for collecting votes in favour of a specific change/modification I have proposed a simple framework, but it needs work. I think I left it on the page where it was reporting about phase I. Moughera (talk) 17:10, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

@Moughera: here are some options:
  • Post your feedback at w:Wikipedia:Talk pages consultation 2019/Phase 2, this is where people are discussing ways to improve the discussion processes.
  • Post your feedback at w:Wikipedia:Village pump, this is where general discussions on Wikipedia belong, and Wikipedia editors can point you to a better place to make the request.
  • Post your feedback at Phabricator, this is where software and tool requests belong, but I don't think they will listen to you.
  • Wait until the next meta:Community Wishlist Survey, this is where all the users get to propose ideas for improvement, and will probably happen at the end of 2019.
Beleg Tâl (talk) 17:25, 27 May 2019 (UTC)


Fixed a Lint-error in this, but noted that the source information is minimal, a proper scan would be nice.

There doesn't seem to be {{No scan}} or {{needs scans}} template. :( ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:23, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

A proper scan would be nice. Maybe we should create a {{No scan}} template? —Beleg Tâl (talk) 02:14, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Yes, Ask on scriptorum first though? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:45, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Lonely pages...Edit

Being Special:LonelyPages ...

Any chance if you have a spare moment to try and reduce this further so there's only redirects in it?

I've tried to remove some of the lower hanging fruit in it, as you can tell by my recent contributions.. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:48, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

It's not a fool proof list though given that some nominally oprhaned Index: pages are in User:Hesperian/Indices which does not seem to have update in a while. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:48, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
I'll add it to the list of backlogs to keep an eye on. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 21:13, 27 June 2019 (UTC)


We seem to have more than one William Shrubsole that did hymns. The one in the Army Hymnal was created as Shurbsole and the work was linked to the other Shrubsole. I have corrected that work, disambiguated the author, though couldn't determine some works authorship, so left them pointing at Author:William Shrugsole and you are welcome to point them where they need to go. — billinghurst sDrewth 15:35, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Good catch! —Beleg Tâl (talk) 17:29, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

New template-Edit

Being Template:Recto—verso header, attempts to encapsulate the modulus based pagenumbering code you've used sometimes. You might want to review and see if it's something that could start to be used. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:02, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Page:Sintel movie 4K.webm/8Edit

This was generating a LintError about misnested spans? Can you take another look, because I was having a hard time finding the point at which it broke, and if it's to do with some aspect of whitespace handling in Mediawiki I stand practically no chance in determining it fully at present? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:00, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: can you give me more details about what error it is generating? —Beleg Tâl (talk) 20:02, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Certainly: "Lint errors: Misnested tag with different rendering in HTML5 and HTML4" the link with the lintid being [1] ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:12, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
I've found that this is often due to
  1. Attempting to place a DIV based template inside a SPAN based one
  2. Attempting to place content that generates its own HTML (typically a DIV or SPAN) inside a paragraph run, but which Mediawiki is unable to 'tidy' correctly due to paragraph and whitespace interactions. It would also be nice if someone at some point sat down and provided a fully documented account of how all the whitespace interactions in Mediawiki are (or are suppposed to be) processed, because some of the harder glitches to track down, I've found have proven to be down to the minutiae of precisely what Mediawiki does (or doesn't) do in this respect of 'tidying.'

ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:12, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: After extracting the HTML using Special:ExpandTemplates, I pasted the HTML into the W3C validator and a closing tag checker and both tools found no errors with misnested tags. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 20:26, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Me is puzzled as to why it's being mis-detected then. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:28, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Ante-Nicene Fathers‎Edit

I've been doing some lint repairs on this. Some followup from other contributors appreciated. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:33, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Is that the garbage copydump one? —Beleg Tâl (talk) 20:34, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Well it's not the scan backed one, if that's what you mean. If you think it wasn't worth keeping, WS:PD exists. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:49, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
It's worth keeping, but it's not worth fiddling over minutiae when the whole work is a mess —Beleg Tâl (talk) 21:50, 7 July 2019 (UTC)


Second view on the approach here.. Oh and I need a way to wrap the __escape functionality in a portable way. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:17, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: looks OK to me, though I would just use {{multicol}}. Also I think that the character next to the numbers are prime symbols rather than apostrophes, 5′ rather than 5'. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 13:23, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


Thanks for doing Lint edits on my user page and elsewhere!

It's a quiet thing that quietly and slowly, but surely, goes a long way to improving the site for everyone, and I wanted to acknowledge this. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 09:50, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

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