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462 THE TEIAL OP JEANNE DAKC. " What did the voice tell you last?" " I asked advice of it upon certain things which you asked me." " Did it give you that advice ? " " Upon some points, yes ; upon others you may ask me information which I shall not give you, not having received permission. For if I should respond without permission, I should have no more voices to second me. When I shall have permission from our Lord, I shall not fear to speak, because I shall have warrant so to do." " Was the voice which spoke to you that of an angel, of a saint, or of God directly ? " " It was the voice of St. Catherine and St. Margaret. Their heads were adorned with beautiful crowns, very rich and very precious. I have permission from our Lord to tell you so much. If you have any doubt of this, send to Poitiers, where I was formerly interrogated." " How did you know that they were saints ? How did you distinguish one from the other ? " " I know well that they were saints, and I easily dis- tinguish one from the other." "How do you distinguish them? " " By the salute which they make me. Seven years have passed since they undertook to guide me. I know them well, because they have named themselves to me." " Were those two saints clad in the same fabric ? " " For the moment I shall tell you no more ; I have not permission to reveal it. If you do not believe me, go to Poitiers. There are some revelations which belong to the King of France, and not to you who interrogate me." " Are the two saints of the same age ? " " I am not permitted to tell." " Did both speak at once, or one at a time ? " "I have not permission to tell you; nevertheless, I have always had counsel from both."