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gone out of general use. I cannot refer, as requested by Q. V., to early books contain- ing the mark ; but the dictionaries of print- ing give the various forms, and some of them seem to me very like a horn. I have not supposed that "the horn" was the correct name of the sign ; but it would seem quite likely that the printers might designate it by some such term rather than by a French or Latin one. Whether they did so is what I am trying to learn. QUIRINUS.

[Reply also from Mr. R. L. MORETOX.]

MARMONT FAMILY (10 th S. iii. 189). The Marshal of the Empire was Auguste-Frederic- Louis Viesse (not Victor) de Marmont, Due de Raguse. His arms were :

" Ecartel : aux ler et 4e, d'argent, a trois bandes de gueules ; au 2e, d'or a 1'etendard de gueules batonue, pose" en bande et charge^ d'une croix d'argent ; au 3e, parti d'azur k la croix de Lorraine d'or et de gueules a l'6pee flamboyante d'argent, posee en pal ; au chef brochant des dues de 1'empire."

He belonged to an old military family, originally of Burgundy, whose arms are :

"D'azur a une croix double et pattee d'or, parti de gueules a une main s^nestre de carnation sortant d'une nuee d'argent, mouvant de la partition, et tenant une epee flamboyante aussi d'argent."

I copy from the French.

R. W. PHIPPS, Colonel.

SCHOOLS FIRST ESTABLISHED (10* S. iii. 209). Will T. B. L. kindly give reference to MS. or book in which he found a bequest for sending an heir to school, and set out the whole passage? Without it, it is impossible to tell whether ad scolas (for so, and not scholas, would it be spelt in 1483) meant the University or a grammar (i.e., secondary) school.

Will he also abstain from seeking schools in monasteries ? Education was not the business or the pleasure of monks, but of the secular clergy or of laymen. The monks controlled some schools, but taught none. Their own schools were no schools, only a knot of novices learning the rule of the order, with, especially in later times, grammar or song thrown in. See, on the origin of West- minster School, Journal of Education for January last.

And, Mr. Editor, please verify your refer- ences. I lost a great deal of time because you referred T. B. L. to 9 th S. instead of 10 th S. i. 166, 215, 257, 269. I hoped it was some- thing new on the subject. A. F. LEACH.

If T. B. L. wishes information as to schools in England, he will find much in Miss Rose Graham's paper, ' The Intellectual Influence of English Monasticism between the Tenth and the Twelfth Centuries/ in the seventeenth


volume of the new series of Transactions of the Royal Historical Society (1903). Q. V.

[We are sorry for the trouble caused by the wrong reference.]

BISHOP COLENSO (10 th S. iii. 187). A long account of Bishop Colenso is given in the following : 'Diet. Nat. Biog.,' vol. xi. ; Boase and Courtney's 'Bibl. Cornub.'; F. Boase's ' Mod. Eng. Biog.,' vol. i. ; The English Cyclo- paedia,' Biog. Supplement; 'Men of theReign'; and ' Celebrities of the Century.' Miss AGAR uses the word " severance." I think it doubt- ful whether Colenso ever considered himself severed from the Church of England ; it was the opposition party who took the name of " The Church of South Africa." An attempt was made in 1864 by Bishop Gray, Metro- politan of Cape Colony, to depose, and later, even to excommunicate him ; but Dr. Colenso appealed to the Crown, the result being that all the above proceedings were pronounced " null and void " in law by the Judicial Com- mittee of the Privy Council, March, 1865. He continued to occupy his see until his death, 20 June, 1883. The Rev. Sir G. W. Cox has written ' Life of J. W. Colenso, D.D., Bishop of Natal. 1 ANNIE KATE RANGE.

An answer to the first part of this question will be found in vol. ii. of ' The Life of Robert Gray, Bishop of Capetown,' by his son the Rev. Charles Gray.

F. E. R. POLLARD-URQUHART.

Castle Pollard, Westnieath.

The third volume of the 'Life of Bishop S. Wilberforce,' Canon Benham's 'Life of Archbishop Tait,' the second volume of Bishop Thirlwall's 'Remains,' and Dean Stanley's 'Essays on Church and State' should be referred to. F. JARRATT.

[W. C. B. and MR. J. A. J. HOUSDEX also thanked for replies.]

HERALDIC (10 th S. iii. 188). MR. ACKERLEY will find that three greyhounds, and, in chief, three hunting-horns, are the arms of the Hunter family. S. D. C.

PERSEHOUSE : SABINE (10 th S. iii. 167). For the Persehouse pedigree see vol. ii. p. 222, Shaw's 'Staffordshire.' References to this family may also be found in Foster's ' Alumni Oxonienses.' Six gentlemen with this sur- name are mentioned on p. 358 of Simms's ' Bibliotheca Staffordiensis.'

CHAS. F. FORSHAW, LL.D.

Bradford.

A few years ago there was a gentleman named Mr. Persehouse Bailey living at Wolverhampton. He might, if still there,