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THE CARNWATH PEDIGREE. The genea- logy of the Earls of Carnwath in Burke's ' Peerage ' differs in some essential points from that given by Douglas in his ' Peerage of Scotland.' In the former the Hon. Sir John Dalzell of Glenae (second son of the 1st Earl of Carnwath) is stated to have been created a baronet of Nova Scotia 11 April, 1666 ; also to have been thrice married, leaving, by his third wife, a son John, who succeeded as 2nd Baronet of Glenae in 1685, which Sir John was father of Sir Robert Dalzell, who inherited as 6th Earl of Carn- wath.

Turning to Douglas's ' Peerage of Scotland' ( 1st ed. ), I find that the Hon. Sir John Dal- zell of Glenae (second son of the 1st Earl of Carnwath) was once married, and left an only son, Sir Robert Dalzell of Glenae, who had three wives, by the last of whom (Violet, daughter of Riddell of Haining) he had three sons, the eldest being Sir John Dalzell of Glenae, father of Robert, 6th Earl of Carnwath.

It would appear from these discrepancies in the Carnwath pedigree that Burke has not only omitted, and ignored, Sir Robert Dalzell, the son and heir of the Hon. Sir John Dalzell of Glenae, but has also gene- rously bestowed Sir Robert's three wives on the last-named baronet's father. That the Sir Robert Dalzell in question was father of Sir John Dalzell (whose son Sir Robert succeeded as 6th Earl of Carnwath) is abundantly proved by the following com- mission register :

" John Dalzell to be captain of the company of foot formerly commanded by Sir Robert Dalzell your father in the Earl of Mar's regiment. White- hall, 12 December, 1679." 'Warrant Book for Scotland,' vol. iv.

And in 1686 " Sir John Dalzell " appears in the list of the Earl of Mar's regiment.

According to Foster's ' Peerage,' the baronetcy of 11 April, 1666, was bestowed on Sir Robert Dalzell, not on his father the Hon. Sir John Dalzell.

CHARLES DALTON.

WOMEN AND PARLIAMENT. The conduct of what are called " Suffragists " at several political meetings held recently recalls the various attempts made by the advocates of the enfranchisement of women to attract the attention of Parliament to the matter. This has led, on more than one occasion, to a conflict with the police, when the precincts of the House, and of Palace Yard, have had to be cleared by force. This again reminds us that the invasion of Palace


Yard by a mob of women is not without historical precedent, although the object in view may have been different. The results, however, on one occasion at all events, were more serious.

On the 8th of August, 1643, the House of Commons was beset by a crowd of women,, who had come there to protest against the conduct of the Commons in rejecting the peace propositions put forward by the House of Lords. Next day they came back in greater numbers, and, after presenting a petition for peace, behaved in a most out- rageous manner, demanding that Pym, Strode, and others of the Roundhead party should be delivered up "in order that they might throw them into the Thames." Finally, the situation got so serious that the guard fired on them, but only with powder, which had the usual effect of exasperating the mob, who began to pelt them with stones and brickbats. On this the soldiers fired with loaded arms ; but as the only result was to kill two men (who were encouraging the crowd, and consequently deserved what they got), the women, far from being frightened, continued to shout for " those traitors that were against peace, that we may tear them to pieces." A small body of Waller's horse came up, only to be set upon by the women with cries of " Waller's dogs." In self-defence the troopers used first the flat, and then the edge, of their swords, with the result that some of the Amazons were wounded, while others were trampled down. The tumult, however, was not quelled until a troop of horse came up and drove them away. One unfortunate incident was the shooting of a young woman who happened to be passing, which (though asserted to have been done accidentally) caused a good deal of comment at the time. It is to be hoped that the Suffragists and their sup- porters will not carry things so far next session. T. F. D.

Music AND MUSCLE IN CHINA. In the October number of The Land of Sinim an admirable little magazine published quarterly as a chronicle of the Church of England Mission in North China and Shan- tung there is an amusing account of the building of a new church at Peking. The whole of it is worthy of being read, but I will quote only a short passage which gives an illustration of the fact that others than sailors are inspired to work by chanties :

' ' There could be seen a trench cut in the earth showing the exact shape of the church about to be built. Now began a scene absolutely strange to.