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" THANK GOD THERE IS A HOUSE
OF LORDS."
ALTHOUGH the authorship of this saying has been disputed, it has not, I think, been discussed in ' N. &.Q.' ; but about twenty- three years ago there were some letters in The Times on the question.
In the issue of Deo. 28, 1894, appearec
a letter from Mr. Stanley Boulter headec
Lord Beaconsfield and the House o
lords.' Mr. Boulter gave a long extract
rom Mr. Disraeli's speech at Manchester,
April 3, 1872. I quote from the last para-
- raph of the extract
" A Liberal Government had been installed in
ffice, with an immense Liberal majority. They
>roposed some violent measures. The House of
liords modified some, delayed others, and some
- hey threw out. Instantly there was a cry to
abolish or to reform the House of Lords, and the
- reatest popular orator that probably ever
xisted [O Conn ell] was sent on a pilgrimage over
England to excite the people in favour of this
opinion. What happened ?. . . .There was a
dissolution of Parliament .... It was discovered
i,hat the House of Lords had behind them at least
lalf of the English people. We heard no more
ries for their abolition, or their reform, and before
wo more years passed England was really
joverned by the House of Lords, under the wise
influence of the Duke of Wellington and the
commanding influence of Lyndhurst ; and such
was the enthusiasm of the nation in favour of the
Second Chamber that at every public meeting its
health was drunk, with the additional sentiment,
Cor which we are indebted to one of the most
distinguished members that ever represented the
House of Commons [O'Connell], ' Thank God
there is the House of Lords.' "
In The Times of Jan. 5, 1895, was printed a letter from Mr. J. G. Swift MacNeill, M.P., headed ' Thank God there is the House of Lords,' taking exception to the attribution of the saying to O'Connell :
" On referring to the selected speeches of Lord Beaconsfield published by Messrs. Longmans, from which Mr. Stanley Boulter took the quotation, I find that Lord Beaconsfield did not, in his speech, mention the name of the author of the sentiment. The omission is supplied by the editor of the volume in this laconic foot-note ' O'Connell.'
" I venture, however, to think the editor of Lord Beaconsfield's speeches, whose notes are on the whole very accurate, is in error in this particular. For ' O'Connell ' the name of the 14th Earl of Derby should, I think, for the following reasons, be substituted : 1. The Earl of Derby, who was Lord Beaconsfield's predecessor as Tory Prime Minister, opposed as Lord Stanley the bill for the Repeal of the Corn Laws. ' It was,' he said, ' for their lordships to protect the people against those whom they had chosen to represent their opinions, and their reward would be the thanks of a grateful and admiring people, who would then justly exclaim, " Thank God we have a House of Lords." '
Then follow further arguments against the attribution of the saying to O'Connell, and in favour of the attribution to Lord Derby. These arguments are precise and clear.
In The Times of Jan. 9, 1895, appeared a letter signed Sam. J. Wilde, written from Serjeants' Inn, E.G. :
" When in a committee room of the House of Commons before the present buildings were erected, as the room in question was one that had not been burnt (though the top storey had), I heard Alderman Harmer, a very advanced
