Tom-L
Welcome to Wikisource
Hello, Tom-L, and welcome to Wikisource! Thank you for joining the project. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:
- Help pages, especially for proofreading
- Help:Beginner's guide to Wikisource
- Style guide
- Inclusion policy
- Wikisource:For Wikipedians
You may be interested in participating in
Add the code {{active projects}}, {{PotM}} or {{Collaboration/MC}} to your page for current Wikisource projects.
You can put a brief description of your interests on your user page and contributions to another Wikimedia project, such as Wikipedia and Commons.
Have questions? Then please ask them at either
I hope you enjoy contributing to Wikisource, the library that is free for everyone to use! In discussions, please "sign" your comments using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username if you're logged in (or IP address if you are not) and the date. If you need help, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question here (click edit) and place {{helpme}} before your question.
Again, welcome! — billinghurst sDrewth 11:42, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Catholic Encylopedia edit
Don't forget to check the pagelists! It's a major hassle when a missing page is uncovered 200 pages or so into a proofreading session. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 12:13, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Check out {{dhr}}. Instead of using multiple in a row, use a single one with a parameter specifying its size. Haz talk 00:12, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, will do.Tom-L (talk) 00:37, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi. I saw your comment above. Was this perhaps what you wanted to achieve? AuFCL (talk) 09:15, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- Exactly! Tom-L (talk) 09:16, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- Oh good. I hope you won't mind me asking but is {{mirrorH}} of your own invention? You might be interested in {{rotate}} which is (logically somewhat) similar though obviously not a replacement. You might also be interested in oddities like {{column-count}}, {{column-width}}, {{column-gap}} and {{column-rule}} which use a similar style of embedding to your {{mirrorH}}.
I am by no means objecting but most templates you will encounter around wikisource (e.g. {{hanging indent}}) use a {{}template-name|parameters|thing-to-operate-on}} invocation style. There are of course advantages and disadvantages either way so try to beware that some combinations of template invocations can be tricky. One famous example is {{box|F=ma}} (which does not work: try it!) and has to be rewritten as {{box|F{{=}}ma}}.
Also be wary of assuming Unicode works on all browsers. You might see all of these "⅑⅛⅐⅙⅕¼⅓½" (fractions one-ninth through one-half) but some people do not and I have never figured out an entirely reliable rule for finding out without asking. AuFCL (talk) 09:45, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- I got it from English Wikipedia after finding no clear alternative on here. The fleurons should be well-supported, since they were added to the Unicode standard very early on. But I hope the Wiki engine takes care of it (proper unicode fonts?) EnWiki usually only places warnings when less common unicode for minority languages is used. Tom-L (talk) 10:27, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- I thought as much. Template coverage can be quirky between projects and all I can recommend is be wary of assuming what works in one place also does in others. The general rule here is to ask on Scriptorium/Help if you cannot find something which ought to be here; but in practice you did the right thing in copying a proven solution here.
Regarding the fleurons (and indeed your entire argument c.f. order of adding to Unicode): you would think so (and I happen to as well) BUT you will no doubt also be surprised at how many cases of "all I see are empty rectangles" are reported. I can only conclude font coverage (and that includes automatically downloaded web-fonts) is truly abysmal in practice (sorry to be so pessimistic!)
On a completely different tack I note elsewhere you claim some expertise in SVG construction. Whilst I do not know of anything ongoing at present calls for such a skill are fairly frequent. May I have permission to mention your name next time one pops up? AuFCL (talk) 02:29, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Perhaps something akin to Help:Special characters might be warranted, in that case, even if only as a general note on the main page or the help page. And yes, you can certainly mention my name, though a mention of the graphic lab might be quicker. Tom-L (talk) 17:19, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- I thought as much. Template coverage can be quirky between projects and all I can recommend is be wary of assuming what works in one place also does in others. The general rule here is to ask on Scriptorium/Help if you cannot find something which ought to be here; but in practice you did the right thing in copying a proven solution here.
- Oh good. I hope you won't mind me asking but is {{mirrorH}} of your own invention? You might be interested in {{rotate}} which is (logically somewhat) similar though obviously not a replacement. You might also be interested in oddities like {{column-count}}, {{column-width}}, {{column-gap}} and {{column-rule}} which use a similar style of embedding to your {{mirrorH}}.