Mr. Richard Creed.—p. 177.
1. Are you the secretary to the London and Birmingham Railway Company?
I am.
2. Have you examined the information and evidence supplied by Mr. Hart, Mr. Holman, Mr. Shackel, Mr. Partridge, Mr. Attenborough, and Mr. Warner, of the traffic on the road by coaches, posting, canal boats, &c.?
Yes.
3. What do you calculate that the conveyance of the different articles and persons would amount to at Railroad prices?
At Railroad prices it would amount to 244,858l. 8s. 10d.
4. Is that calculation made on the prices inserted in the schedule of tolls to be taken by the proposed Act?
It is.
5. Have you looked at Captain Moorsom's calculation as to the coach traffic of passengers by Railroad prices?
I have.
6. How much is that?
246,9161. 16s.
7. Is that calculated at two-pence a mile for each passenger, as proposed to be levied by the Act?
It is so stated in Captain Moorsom's account.
8. In that statement is there any estimate of parcels conveyed by the coaches for the intermediate distances?
There is no allowance.
9. Only the parcels from Birmingham to London, and from London to Birmingham?
Only there.
10. Is there any calculation for goods and parcels that come by vans and carts?
None.
11. Are the goods that come from Liverpool and Manchester. Derbyshire and Leicestershire, and the surrounding counties, included?
There is no allowance made for them, and there is also no allowance made for the increase in the carriage of meat, fish, dairy produce, eggs, and garden produce.
12. Have you examined the evidence given by Mr. Earle, Mr. Moss, and Mr. Booth, relative to the increase of traffic on the Liverpool and Manchester line?
Yes. I have.
13. Taking this evidence as your data, what do you calculate would be the increased traffic on the proposed line of Railroad?
Mr. Booth states that the increase has been in the ratio as to passengers of 1200 to 450[1]; it may be assumed, therefore, that the number of passengers by the London and Birmingham would be doubled.
14. Then you take it in a less proportion than the actual increase?
Mr. Booth's statement is nearly in the proportion of three to one; I have taken it as two to one.
15. Upon that assumed increase on the actual calculated traffic of goods, passengers, and parcels, what do you make the aggregate amount of revenue derived from these sources?
738,692l. 0s. 10d.
16. Was the paper that you hold in your hand drawn up by yourself?
It was.
17. Does it contain the result of the calculations which you have detailed?
It does.
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Note. - Statement B. does not include:—
1st. Parcels by coaches for intermediate distances.
2d. Vans, market carts, and gigs.
3d. Fly boats conveying Liverpool, Manchester, Derbyshire, and Leicestershire goods which enter the line at different places between London and Birmingham, and only go part of the distance.
Nor is any allowance made for the considerable increase, which may certainly be calculated upon from the carriage of meat, fish, dairy produce, and eggs, and of other articles, not now carried to any extent by the existing modes of conveyance.
- ↑ See pp. 143, 144, q.27,29.