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Q Okay. Did he ever talk about lawyers who weren't making arguments that they should be or not in a way that he felt was effective?

A No, I have no knowledge of that.

Q Did he ever say how you all could deliver any sart of message in a more effective way than lawyers?

A No.

Q So it sounds like you don't really know what he's referring to here with "lawyers who failed to explain it."

A No. I mean, as you can see, I also never responded to these messages, so—

Q And a little bit further down, so Madi, Madison Crawley responds, "Copy."

And then Michael Brown responds, "We're gonna be lobbyists. Woot."

Do you know what he means by "lobbyists"?

A No, I don't. I mean, I think that was partially, you know, exaggerating, jokingly. But, again, you'd have to ask him for what he meant. That's at least how I interpret this message reading it now. I don't know what he meant. That's something for him.

Q Did you ever ask him what he meant by, "We're gonna be lobbyists," what that meant?

A No.

Q Do you recall him saying that other times, that you all were going ta be lobbyists?

A No.

Q If you turn the page to Bates 1502, at—so November 30th, 2020, 7:53 a.m., Chelsea Barnett writes, "Got it." And then Michael Brown responds, "Waiting to hear from Roman. But let's be ready."