Q Who—
A And—
Q Okay.
A I'll just provide some more rope. But, you know, even evidenced by this is a—breitbart.com ran a story saying I was a speaker. And I don't know when that article came out and I didn't talk to Breitbart about that article, so I had every belief to believe that I was a speaker at the Ellipse event.
Q Who was the Trump campaign staffer that you were just referencing?
A The Trump campaign official that I was just representing was Caroline Wren.
Q Who is Ms. Caroline Wren?
A Caroline is a political consultant. She, you know, I don't know like, you know, what her official titles were. I knew that she was a fundraiser. And I knew that she either had the Trump campaign, or PAC, or we all—I work in politics, I guess you guys work in government, but when we say someone works for something, we could be talking about a larger collection of entities, whether it is, like, a joint fundraising committee, or a PAC, or a campaign. So during it, Caroline Wren was working with the President's son and Kimberly Guilfoyle to do fundraising, and was the person who initially reached out and said she reached out on behalf of, let's call it Trump world, and wanted to unite these events.
Q What role did Ms. Wren represent to you? What washer role that she represented to you? Did she say I'm part of the Trump campaign?
A That was 12 months ago—or that was, like, 11 months and 2 weeks ago or so. So I wouldn't be able to recall specifically. What I believe, you know, based off my best recollection that I colloquially called her in my internal communications with people and on conference calls and stuff like that that she was with the Trump campaign. So I
