A No, I don't know that it was. I mean, it's clearly after he was in the White House. But it could have been 2017 or 2018 or 2019.
Q All right.
A It wasn't in 2017. I can say that. So 2018, 2019, or 2020.
Q And did Ms. Wren in that first phone call—she's saying the President's going to speak on the 6th. Did she say who she was working with from Trump world on the event?
A No, she—I just for clarification, she didn't say that Trump was—
Q Possibility.
A Yeah, possibility.
Q Yes.
A And, no, I—you know, again, you know, I saw her and introduced her on that conference call that we all talked about earlier as like the—with Caroline Wren with the Trump campaign.
Q Did she—okay. Did she ever relay to you at any point between that first call and January 6th who, if anyone, she was working with within Trump world on this—on the events on the 5th and 6th?
A She mentioned passing, you know, she mentioned passing conversations like with Kimberly Guilfoyle and, you know, Oh, I'm talking to Charlie Kirk, and stuff like that. And, you know, she would give me these periodic updates.
Q Did she ever convey to you that she had spoken to President Trump about the events?
A I'm not sure, but that is my impression.
Q Did she ever convey to you that she talked to Don, Jr., the President's son, about the events?
