And so, what I have seen since then is a video that I believe to be true, and which he says, Hey, guys, you can't be here. Go to Lot 8, that's where Trump said he's going.
Q Right.
A And so, that was a tool of rhetoric by speaker. At that point I have to believe that Alex but Alex can be naive and innocent and he could have believed that.
Q That's fine. We saw a text message earlier you saw where Caroline Wren told you—
A What time was it at?
Q 12:59, POTUS not walking. Do you remember that?
A Yeah. And that's what—my true belief is that the President was not coming.
Q Right. So at that time you knew it wasn't true, as far as you knew that the President—when Mr. Jones said that the President was coming, you knew at that time he wasn't coming. Is that right?
A It would have seemed logistically improbable.
Q I'm asking what you understood at the time that he wasn't coming.
A Yes. My understanding was that it was logistically improbable to the nth degree. And again, I already told this committee that in my professional opinion, there was no way for Trump to ever come.
Q I heard you. I heard you.
A And so, did you ask Mr. Jones at the time why are you saying that President Trump is coming?
Q No. I'm observ—I have tear gas in my eyes. I'm not thinking about correcting him. And again, we're engaged in tools of rhetoric to get people out of the conflict zone. And so, if Mr. Jones said that there are aliens on the other side, I would
