Joe Hackett, Ben Parker, Sandra Parker, Jessica Watkins, and Donovan Crowl have all been charged by the Department of Justice for crimes committed at the Capitol on January 6th? Were you aware of that?
A I'm not aware of that.
Q So that's 13 folks on this list that was sent to you by Mr. Martin. So you're saying here today that you did not hear the Oath Keepers throughout the day on January 6th discussing any plans for the Capitol on January 6th?
A I had very little interaction with the Oath Keepers on all of January 6th 9 because, as the two were with me, I believe, the two came with me to the Ellipse, they weren't sitting with me. I was in the front row for all of the speeches.
And they didn't—I don't believe that they went with me when Alex Jones and I were walking with his security, which was why I was in his security bubble.
And I don't recognize any of the Oath Keepers in pictures that I've seen in preparing for my testimony in shots of us. And when I got to the Capitol, not only did I not see them there, they weren't at Lot 8.
Q Right. So I guess that didn't answer the question. So you don't recall hearing Oath Keepers talking about their plans for the Capitol—
A I didn't have an opportunity to hear any Oath Keepers talking about anything that, you know, that would have lasted more than from, based off my recollection, from the hotel to the Ellipse.
Q So you're providing the color without, kind of like what said earlier, you're providing the color without answering the question.
A No, I'm answering the question.
Q Is it yes or no? Do you recall—
A I do not recall.
