facts and circumstances surrounding the three of you via this email arranging the Oath Keepers to serve as the personal security detail? And if you want to answer it in narrative form, that's fine. I'm really not trying to trick you.
Mr. Kamenar. I think he already answered that he doesn't recall this email. So I don't know what more—
. But I'm not asking him if he recalls the email.
The Witness. Why were you referencing it?
. Well, because sometimes that triggers people's recollection—
The Witness. It doesn't.
. —because it was the—
The Witness. Not to me.
. And that's fine.
Sitting here today—forget the email—do you remember any conversations with Nathan, any conversations with Stephen, about hiring the Oath Keepers to be a personal security detail on January 5th or January 6th?
The Witness. I either made the decision or authorized the decision for Oath Keepers, for two to be with me and my party, and then a gaggle.
And I do not remember. I mean, this is a big list. Okay? I don't know who came up with this amount of people. It could have been me. It could have been Stephen. It could have been Nathan. It could have been Stewart. It could have been the man on the Moon. Okay?
But let me say this. Their job, we can call them security or PSD, I've never called anyone PSD. You won't find that—
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Q Can I stop you right there?
