are committee confidential to outside witnesses. You know that. You've had this talk before.
The Witness. We don't need all the transcript. You could have provided what you wanted to use.
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Q I'm going to read it to you. If your memory's not jogged, it's not jogged. Then that's what the record will reflect.
A Okay.
Q "Did you have"—Mr. Rich Donoghue: "Did you have any conversations with the chief of staff for Mr. Miller, Kash Patel, at that time or any time?"
"I don't know if he was on this call. I did have conversations with Kash Patel separately, in part in relation to that Italy allegation that we discussed a few hours ago."
"Was Mr. Patel at DOD at that time, end of December?
"I believe he was, because I think that the chief of staff brought that up first in his office on December 29th, and, as part of the conversation, he referred it to us. He said, 'Check it out.' I think at some point he said, you know, 'Maybe you could have FBI agents go over there and just interview this guy,' and we said, 'No, it doesn't work that way.' And, as you know, we cannot put FBI agents on a plane, send them to a foreign country, and have them interview people. You have to go through the MLAT procedure. It'll take months. And someone said, 'Well, DOD's got people on the ground. Maybe they could do it.' And we didn't weigh in on that. It was like, that's a DOD issue. If you want to talk to them, so be it. And then I ended up on the phone with Kash Patel a couple days later, maybe January 1st. He called me and said, "What is the situation with the guy in Italy?" And I told him what I knew, and he said, 'Okay, thanks,' and we hung up, and that was it. I've never met him in person. I think that was the only
