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Callaghan: The next six months are important. I think we have a bit of leverage on Portugal.

Ford: What is your impression now?

Wilson: Bad. Antunes is out. The EC Nine discussed it. It was a very good discussion. Strong views were expressed by Schmidt and Giscard. He's very good on it. We agreed that Giscard and I would talk to Brezhnev.

Kissinger: But we must not make a copout of it. It is not Russian controlled.

Ford: The situation in Portugal is a result of our own indecision.

Kissinger: And local conditions.

Wilson: Strange lot. You met them. Starts as Marxism but then gets involved with Mozambique and Angolan strands. They do not follow the straight Russian line although some of them do.

Callaghan: How about the Camp David idea?

Kissinger: I discussed it with Genscher. His present idea is to discuss Southern Europe at Camp David during Special Session.

Callaghan: Sauvagnargues said he has to consult Giscard. Are you still interested?

Kissinger: Yes.

Callaghan: Italy is bad. The Communists can walk in.

Kissinger: We had a report that deMartino will pull the Socialists out unless there is cooperation with the Communists.

Callaghan: We had the same report.

Wilson: We have been approached to help as the Labor Party.

Callaghan: Moro is so weak. The Socialists are working in combination with the Communist Party and are not interested in any other way.

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