sary that the workers must arm in order to obtain the revolution. The workers must arm to protect the revolution because I do not believe the capitalist class will give in without a fight.”
On the question of Parliamentary action on lines such as obtain in England, I argued that we had all the machinery of government and administration ; that we had our great trade union and co-operative movement and friendly societies ; that all these organisations, national, municipal and voluntary are training men and women for the work of administration, and that it would be quite easy for us to take over whenever the workers really desire to do so. I gave as an instance of what I meant the Poplar Borough Council, where we have an almost solid representation made up of Labour men and women—people who actually work with their hands. I asked him whether we ought to give up all this work, and most emphatically he replied “ No ” ; that we should all remain in every organisation, learn all we can, and use them, of course, as means of propaganda and experiment.
As to my pacifism and my hatred of violence, he said he could understand it and could appreciate it, and what he was anxious to know was on which side should I be in the event of a revolution. My reply was that always I should be on the side of the workers.
