of the common folk, lest they say we speak above man's measure.
M. Say as thou wilt.
P. Dost thou think that what is useful is good?
M. I think it is.
P. Every lot is useful that instructs or punishes.
M. That is true.
P. An adverse lot is good for those that are fighting against sins and striving to be good.
M. I cannot gainsay this.
P. What thinkest thou of the good fortune that often befalls good men in this world, like a foretoken of everlasting good? Can men say it is an evil fate?
At this I smiled and said, 'No man says so, but says it is very good, as indeed it is.'
P. What thinkest thou concerning the unlooked-for fate that often threatens to chastise the wicked? Do people think it is good fortune?
M. No, they do not deem it good, but miserable.
P. Let us refrain from thinking as the common folk think; for if we think as they do we shall forsake all reason and all righteousness.
M. Why do we forsake it any the more?
P. Because ordinary men say that every harsh and unlovely lot is evil; but we must not believe this, for every lot is good, as we said before, be it harsh, or be it pleasing.
At this I was afraid, and said: 'What thou sayest