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10 s. x. DEC. 19, 1908.] NOTES AND QUERIES.


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of land to the west of the Edgware Roac which is now known as Bayswater and Craven Hill " rests not only on the grants by Gilber de Sanford, the lord of the manor, as recordec by Stow, but also on an Act of Parliamen dealing with the Craven estate, which wa passed in the first half of the eighteentl century, if my memory does not deceive me.

It is interesting to learn that the brook was called " Tybourn " and " Ty-boum ' by a mapmaker of the eighteenth century but this does not affect my main contentior "that originally the name was applied to ar area of land, and not to a running stream. W. F. PBIDEAUX. Grand Hotel, Locarno.

I have discussed the evidence for the supposed extension of Tyburn Manor to Bayswater in a paper on ' London's Firsl Conduit System,' published in the Transac- tions of the London and Middlesex Archaeo- logical Society, within the last two years. I there point out that all the evidence shows is the existence of a very small detached part of the manor of Tyburn in the common fields of Westbourne. I must refer those interested to that paper, as I have no oppor- tunity to go over the evidence again at pre

sent. A. MOBLEY DAVIES.

[See PROF. SKEAT'S note 'Initial T in Place- Names,' ante, p. 486.]

ST. MABTIN POMEBOY (10 S. x. 382, 450). I fear that MB. GOMME can never obtain -confirmation for his theory of the Roman origin of Pomary, and for two reasons. Firstly, St. Martin Pomary is in all docu- ments, which I have found, of earlier date than 1251, called St. Martin in Ironmongers Lane; it is so called at least as early as 1207. Secondly, St. Martin Pomary, which is near the centre of the City, was never in the pomozrium, using that word in its classical meaning. It is to me inconceiv- able that the name Pomary after centuries of disuse should have been revived to distin- guish a church which was not in the pomc&- rium from a church which would have been in any pomwrium of London, to wit, St. Martin Ludgate; even St. Martin Oteswich was nearer the pomoerium than St. Martin in Ironmongers Lane. The form St. Martin in Pomerio given in the ' Munimenta Gild- hallse ' suits well enough the derivation from apple orchard. Failing that, a derivation from a benefactor is the most plausible. It is curious that, at the very time when the name St. Martin Pomer first occurs, Walter, son of Reginald le Paumer, had


a house in Ironmongers Lane. See Watney, ' Hospital of St. Thomas of Aeon,' pp. 257-8.

C. L. KlNGSFOBD.

MEDITEBBANEAN (10 S. x. 308, 351, 376, 456). D. is charged with having "made a slip." He cannot see it. D. suggested that a difficult passage in the 'Letters of Queen Victoria' relating a Turkish proposal "to relegate the British fleet to the White Sea " was explained by MB. PIEB- POINT'S words (ante, p. 351) "by the Turks called the 'White Sea,' to distinguish it from the Black Sea." All your corre- spondents, including H. S., who thinks " D. has made a slip," prove D. s case. JJ. can assure H. S. that grammatical authorities tell him that his words did not establish a maritime canal between the White Sea and the Baltic. Not in D.'s mind, but in that of Queen Victoria's informant, there may have been confusion between such operations as were afterwards carried on by Ommanney in the White Sea and those of Sir Charles Napier in the Baltic. JJ.

CANADIAN NATURAL DYES (10 S. x. 348). x know of no publication dealing with this matter except a short paper ' On Colouring Materials produced in Canada, by Wm. Green, in the Transactions of the Literary and Historical Society of Quebec, vol. i., Quebec, 1829. Probably it can be seen at the British Museum.

As the climate and productions ot the southerly parts of Canada are identical with those of the adjacent States, it would be well to look into the more abundant literature of the United States for the in- formation. Among the American books I can name Heermann's ' Dyers' Materials New York, Van Nostrand, 2 dollars 50c.) and Hummel' s 'Colouring Matters tor dyeing Textiles' (Philadelphia, McKay,

dollar). AVEBN PABDOE.

Legislative Library, Toronto.

INDIAN MAGIC (10 S. x. 428). I regret hat I am unable to give MB. W. G. BLACK much assistance in elucidating his interest- ng account of magic in Assam. I a m - lined to think that the incident of the ransformation of the wizard into a sheep loes not necessarily depend upon an idea ot anctity attached to this animal. The sheep 5 one of the beasts into which in India

man beings are believed to be occasionally ransformed by the powers of the magician see Temple-Steel, ' Wide- Awake Stories, d. 1884, pp. 395, 421). Such animal ransformations are common in Indian