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vicar, where a humorous scene is enacted at the Adoration of the Shepherds. One wishes to walk to kiss what he thinks is the babe in the cradle :

Pastor. Let me gyf youre barne-bot vj pence.


Pastor. Me thyrik he pepys.

Mak. Nay, do way : he slepys.

Pastor. Me thyrik he pep

Mak. When he wakyns he wepys :

I pray you go hence. At the present day we have two sounds short and long for the letter 'i,' as 'bin, bind'; 'fin, find'; 'din, dine'; 'shin, shine,' and in English, as in Latin, we have the two sounds in one word, as 'ibidem,' ' ibis,' &c., so that the name Pepys Place would be written sometimes Pipe's Place, and would be pronounced * Peeps ' till the modern form would become fixed."

It is not to be expected that authorities would be given in a newspaper article, but the account of Pipe's Place is taken from Archceologia Cantiana, xx. 195-202 ; xxiii. 78-85. The miracle play referred to is 1 The Adoration of the Shepherds, ' in the Widkirk Plays, from Collier's ' History of English Dramatic Poetry,' ii. 186. The argument is that of the writer of the article.


' NOTES AND QUERIES ' COMMEMORATION (10 S. xii. 167). In response to this pro- posal a mass of suggestions lies before me, from which I select and append the more practical, in the order of their popularity, for further consideration. Please reply direct.

1. Consolidated lexicographical Index to the first ten series of ' N. & Q. '

2. Special volume of original papers from contributors, typical of and uniform with 'N. & Q.,' preferably with illustrations.

3. Biographical record, in separate book form, of contributors, with facsimile auto- graphs.

4. History of ' N. & Q.,' illustrated.

5. London conference (with subsequent dinner) for the purpose of extending the influence of ' N. & Q.'

6. Precis of the more important subjects settled by * N. & Q.' since its foundation.

7. Reprint of the first seven Series.

8. Reprint of the rare Indexes.

WILLIAM JAGGARD. 92, Dale Street, Liverpool.

It seems to me that the sixtieth anni- versary of ' N. & Q.' could not be better celebrated than by printing a General Index to the ten Series. I think if a subscription list were started, there would soon be con- tributed by friends of ' N. & Q. ' a sum suffi- cient to defray the expense of this useful undertaking. Please accept this suggestion

from one of your oldest contributors, whose earliest contribution appeared in N. & Q.' (2 S. xii. 309) as far back as 19 Oct., 1861.

A. L. MAYHEW. 21, Norham Road, Oxford.

MRS. AND Miss VANNECK (10 S. xii. 188). The story mentioned in Mr. G. W. E. Russell's ' Collections and Recollections ' finds some corroboration in a caricature published by Gillray on 25 April, 1788, called ' The Royal Joke ; or, Black Jack's Delight.' In the ' Works of James Gillray,' pp. 96-7, the plate is thus described :

"This caricature illustrates a scandalous scene at Carlton House. The Prince, seated in the centre, is treating a lady to a very unceremonious correc- tion. Lady Archer is offering her riding whip. Behind the Prince stand Mrs. Fitzherbert, Fox, Colonel Hanger, and Mrs. Armistead (afterwards Mrs. Fox), enjoying the 'joke.' ' Black Jack, from whose pocket hangs a piece of music, * The Reform, a new motion,' is fiddling his appreciation."

The unfortunate lady, however, is not identified as Miss Vanneck.

Gertrude, third daughter of Sir Joshua Vanneck, first Baronet, and Privy Purse to the Princess of Wales, who died in March, 1798, and whose visit to the Pavilion at Brighton in August, 1795, is mentioned by Walpole, is the Miss Vanneck who is most likely to have been the heroine of the scan- dalous story. HORACE BLEACKLEY.

JACOB COLE (10 S. xii. 129, 218). This old Westminster worthy was very good in humour generally and in punning particu- larly. In his day he served on almost every public body in St. Margaret's parish, being churchwarden in 1837-8. He was a great practical joker, a man full of spirits and of much joviality, and the life and soul of parish meetings. In 1858 Mr. Samuel Hughes of Park Street (now Queen Anne's Gate), was elected churchwarden, and sought to do away with the customary dinner, an attempt which engendered a vast amount of ill-feeling. As was to be expected, so decided a bon vivant as Jacob Cole was in favour of the dinner being held, but without effect. It was not held, and gradually fell into abey- ance, and finally ceased. One result of the bad feeling thus brought about was the fol- lowing lines, written by Mr. Cole in con- junction with my brother-in-law Mr. William Enne Needham, at that time (and until his death in 1877) parish clerk of St. Margaret's, Westminster ; but whether the lines were circulated or used I have now no means of proving. They were discovered among Mr. Needham' s papers after his death. What