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io' s. ii. JULY 9, 1904.] NOTES AND QUERIES.


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ARMS OF LINCOLN, CITY AND SEE (10 th S. i. 168, 234) May I, in addition to what MR. MAC MICHAEL has written, and in answer to one part of J. W. G.'s question that as to the arms of the See of Lincoln refer your correspondent to what the late Dr. Wood- ward has written on the subject in his work

  • Ecclesiastical Heraldry' (1894)? At p. 182,

on a plate excellently blazoned, appear the arms of that see : " Gules, two lions pas- sant guardant in pale or ; on a chief azure the effigy of the Blessed Virgin, seated, crowned and sceptred, and holding the Holy Child, all of the second."*

At p. 184 appears the following interesting account of these arms, which, as your corre- spondent may not have ready access to the book (which is now, I believe, scarce), I maj- be allowed to transcribe for his information :

" Up to 1496 the Episcopal seals usually contain the effigy of the Blessed Virgin with the Child ; but on the seals of Bishop William Smith (1495- 1514) the shield of arms at present used appears. As the throne of the Bishop of the See, formed by the union of the ancient Bishoprics of Dorchester and Sidnacester, was placed at Lincoln in 1075 by William the Conqueror, the arms borne by him (or at least by his successors, kings of England and dukes of Normandy) may have been used 'to com- memorate the founder. The suggestion that the arms may have originated in the fact that Geoffrey Plantagenet (natural son of Henry II. by Fair Rosa- mond) was Bishop-elect, though without consecra- tion, from 1173 to 1182, does not now appear to me o probable as at one time it did. The dedication of the Cathedral is to the Blessed Virgin and All Saints. The jurisdiction of this See consists of the County of Lincoln."

I may add that the arms of Lincoln College, Oxford, bear reference to the See of Lincoln as well as to those of its founders.

J. S. UDAL, F.S.A.

Antigua, W.I.

LOCAL AND PERSONAL PROVERBS IN THE WAVERLEY NOVELS (10 th S. i. 383, 402, 455). The following extract from 'The Bride of Lammerrnoor ' contains several amusing speci- mens of these, and is an illustration of the mode in which justice was administered in Scotland about the date of the Union. It was said at that time, " Show me the man, and I will show you the law ":

" [Lord Turn tippet loquitur.] * I thought Sir Wil- liam [i.e. AthtonJ would hae verified the auld Scottish saying, "As soon comes the lamb's skin to market as the auld tup's." '

' ' We must please him after his own fashion, 5 said another, ' though it be an unlooked-for one.'


  • The blazonry on the plate, however, does not

bear out in all its details Dr. Woodward's state- ment, the Virgin being attired argent and the cushion of the seat being gules.


" * A wilful man maun hae his way,' answered the old counsellor.

( ' The Keeper will rue this before year and day are out,' said a third: 'the Master of Ravenswood is the lad to wind him a pirn.'

' 4 Why, what would you do, my lords, with the poor young fellow ? ' said a noble Marquis present ; ' the Lord Keener has got all his estates he has not a cross to bless himself with.' " On which the ancient Lord Turntippet replied, ' If he hasna gear to fine

He has shins to pine.

And that was our way before the Revolution Luitur cum persona, qui luerenenpotest <-nm crnnn.na Hegh, my lords, that's gude law Latin.'" Chap. v.

This legal maxim seems to obtain pretty generally even at the present day.

JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.

With regard to MR. JERRAM'S letter at the last reference, I may state that I remember as a small boy the frequent use, by a native of Westmoreland, of an expression which I spell as it sounded to me " They 're rnarrah tuh bran," meaning thereby that two or more things were exactly alike, or, at any rate, that there was not much difference between them. MISTLETOE.

To MR. BOUCIIIER'S interesting list might be added "To go to the devil with a dish- clout," used by Richie Moniplies in 'The Fortunes of Nigel,' xiv., and also in * Castle Dangerous,' but not having that novel at hand I cannot give the exact reference.

"To be of the family of Furnival's," means to be a law student. I saw this ex- planation in one of the early volumes of ' N. <fc Q.,' but cannot recollect why Furnival's was named in preference to other Inns of Court and Chancery. M. N. G.

[Furnivals=attorneys J clerks. See 6 th S. viii. 448.]

WOLVERHAMPTON PULPIT (10 th S. i. 407,

476). I was born within the sound of the bells of St. Peter's Church, and naturally take an interest in the district. That the pulpit "is cut out of one entire stone," or an idea of similar purport, has been repeatedly asserted by divers historians, and it is not at all impossible that "a figure of a grotesque animal has guarded it for more than 800 years." I have not seen Miss Barr Brown's "somewhat sensational" note in the Antiquary t but I may inform her that, according to the 'Beauties of England and Wales' (vol. xiii. part ii. p. 859), published in 1823, her "grotesque animal is " the figure of a large lion executed in a very superior style." I should like to ask MR. HARRY HEMS upon what ground he so emphatically contradicts Miss Brown's statements.

CIIAS. F. FORSHAW, LL.D.