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and have devoted myself for some years past to disentangling the mysteries of their lives. I know something of ciphers, and am accus- tomed to the duke's methods. I am prepared to devote a good deal of time to the matter if MR. WILLCOCK chooses to communicate with me. GEORGE DAVID GILBERT.

Wentworth House, Keymer, Sussex.

DESCENDANTS OF WALDEF OF CUMBERLAND (10 th S. ii. 241, 291, 332). Permit me to thank your correspondents for their replies. I have been unable to consult the seventh volume of the new history of Northumberland. MR. ELLIS clearly proves the existence of Thomas de Lascelles as the son and heir of Duncan, but I should like to point out that Christiana de Ireby, widow of Thomas de Lascelles, married Sir Adam de Gesmuthe before her marriage with Robert de Brus, the "Competitor" (Bain's 'Calendar of Documents,' ii. 150). A queer puzzle con- nected with Christiana may be noted. She seems to have had an aunt called Eva, married to Robert Avenel, as well as a sister Eva who married Alan de Chartres. Through either of these ladies she was connected with the Carricks and other Scots families, as well as with the Levingtons and Baliols (ibid., i. 548). She may have died s.p., as stated, for her own heirs were Johanna, wife of Roger de Edneham, aged thirty ; Johanna, wife of Robert de Hodlestone, aged twenty-eight ; Christiana, wife of John de Farlame, aged twenty-six; and Isabella, wife of Hugh de Bochardeby, aged twenty-five (ibid., ii. 457). It would be interesting to discover the paternity of these ladies. MR. ELLIS draws attention to the statement by Nicholson ('Cumberland,' ii. 449) that Arminia de Lascelles married a Thomas de Seton, and throws doubt upon the match. Thomas is probably a printer's error, for Ermina de Lascelles certainly did marry a John de Seton, and was mother of Sir Christopher de Seton, who was born in 1278, and hanged in 1306 for taking part with his kinsman King Robert Brus (Bain's 'Calendar,' ii. 277, 497). Who was this Ermina de Las- celles, ancestress of the Setons 1 She is discarded in Seton's history of the family, and she seems to have had a sister named Elizabeth. D. MURRAY ROSE.

AMERICAN MILITARY ORDER OF THE DRAGON (10 th S. ii. 347). The insignia of this society were illustrated in the forty-sixth volume of the Proceedings of the American Numismatic Society of New York City. The members consist of commissioned officers who took part in the campaign of 1900 in


Northern China. Male descendants of such officers may become hereditary members. The insignia consist of a circular medallion of bronze, bearing the human-faced dragon in gold ; reverse plain ; suspended by an orna- mental ring and yellow ribbon from a bronze bar, representing the roof of a pagoda ; on the ribbon is a diagram in black silk, which stands for the Chinese characters meaning long life. ROBERT RAYNER.

Herne Hill, S.E.

"DlSGE PATl"(10 th S. i. 248, 316). Could the words of this maxim have been originally due to any of the following passages 1 Et disce regum imperia ab Alcide pati.

Seneca, ' Hercules Furens,' 398. Cf.

Regium imperium pati Aliquando discat.

1 Medea,' 189-90.

Disce sine armis Posse pati.

Lucan, v. 313-14.

Disce arma pati.

. Statius, ' Thebais,' xi. 551.

EDWARD BENSLY. The University, Adelaide, S. Australia.

REV. RICHARD WINTER (10 th S. ii. 348). He was from 1759 to 1799 minister of the Independent congregation assembling at the New Court Meeting House. See Wilson's ' History of Dissenting Churches and Meeting Houses in London,' &c. (1810), vol. iii. p. 538.

J. F. R.

"I LIGHTED AT THE FOOT," &C. (10 th S. ii.

347). I am pretty sure that the lines quoted bv SNYFE occur in 'Firmilian, the Student of Badajoz,' a poem by William Edmon- stoune Aytoun, which was issued under the name of Percy Jones. I regret to say that I do not possess the book, and therefore cannot give a more exact reference.

ASTARTE.

These lines were written by William E. Aytoun, and occur, if I am not mistaken, in his burlesque drama ' The Student of Bada- joz.' They are quoted with other amusing passages in Sir Theodore Martin's biography of Aytoun. M. N. G.

' WILLIAM TELL' (10 th S. ii. 327). The author of the poem was W. B. Bayne, an assistant master at the old Belfast Academy not Academical Institution, as O'Donoghue's ' Poets of Ireland' gives it. The poem is in his 'Poetry of Incident,' published by John Henderson, Belfast, 1850. Many of his pieces are to be found in Bell's 'Elo- cutionist,' and I saw one, ' The Uplifting of