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of a melodrama, part of the title of which was ' The Thirteenth Chime.' I remember seeing it announced for performance, pro- bably at the Surrey or Victoria Theatre, -about the year 1859, but I regret that I cannot give precise information on these points. There has been much discussion among experts as to the possibility of a clock like that of St. Paul's striking thirteen and no more. As I do not wish to spoil a good story, I will not pursue this point, and I will say nothing about the distance between London and Windsor. R. B. P.

JOHN BUTLER, M.P. FOR SUSSEX (10 th S. ii. 129 ; iii. 257). By the kindness of Mr. Slade Butler, who has permitted me to consult his

fenealogy and some manuscripts relating to is family, I am able to state that John Butler, of Warminghurst, was not one of the Butlers of Bye.

I copy the following from a MS. note of Richard Weed en Butler (of Rye, surgeon, d. 1842) :

"The family originally came from the City of Worcester, where they practic'd as Civilians {Attorneys], and was related to Samuel Butler, Author of ' Hudibrass.' Richard and Daniel, the sons of Daniel Butler of Worcester, came to Rye in Sussex, and practiced as Attorneys several years : after which Daniel went to Margate in Kent, where He died."

Richard Butler became Town Clerk of Rye {in which office he was succeeded by his son, Humphrey Butler), and died 16 September, 1734, aged forty-nine.

Daniel Butler the younger, after practising as a solicitor at Margate for many years, died there in 1756, aged fifty-nine.

R. L. MORETON.

QUEEN OF DUNCAN II. (10 th S. iii. 107, 195, 256). I think that M. neglected to examine the printed Scottish chartularies before he committed himself to the dogmatic assertion that there is "no such person on record " as Alexander de Moravia, 1089-1150. My autho- rity is a recorded charter in favour of Richard de Moravia, the grandson of Alexander de Moravia. The italics are mine. Richard was afterwards Sir Richard de Moravia, lord of Skelbo, Culbin, and Newton. As he was killed, when very aged, in 1259, his grand- father's period would be circa 1089-1150.

D. M. R.

DE MORGAN : TURVILLE (10 th S. iii. 168). The only information which has been ob- tained at present of the early days of Capt. John De Morgan, the great-grandfather of the mathematician, is derived from a state- ment made by the gallant captain himself.


He was the first military officer of the Company to receive a pension. To avoid precedents, and to put a stop to further applications, the pension was discontinued in 1758 ; whereupon Capt. De Morgan pe- titioned the Government of Fort St. George to continue it. In this petition he gave a short account of his services, and stated that he went out in the Company's ship Bouverie in 1710. His name is not on the passenger list of the Bouverie ; but as it appears among the sergeants in the military list of 1715, it is to be inferred that he went out to India as a soldier. In that year he distinguished himself in a fight at Fort St. David between the English garrison and the soldiers of the Rajah of Gingee. As a reward he was given a commission as ensign and the command of the Fort St. David garrison. In 1718 he was promoted lieutenant, with the temporary rank of captain when in command, reverting to lieutenant when a senior officer was present. Subsequently he commanded at Anjengo, and for brief periods at Fort St. George. He was pensioned in 1753, and died at Pulicat in 1760, aged seventy-six ; so that he was born in 1684.

He married Sarah (nee Clark) in 1717. Sarah was previously twice married : first, in 1706, to George Turville, a Company's servant; secondly, in 1715, to Peter de Pommare, a free merchant. She had by George Turville a son Thomas, who died in 1751 ; a son John and a daughter Elizabeth by Capt. De Morgan. John De Morgan, jun., appears to have commanded a country ship, which he also probably owned. His name appears in the burial register of St. Mary's, Fort St. George, in 1768, as Mr. John De Morgan, manner. Sarah De Morgan and her infant daughter Elizabeth died in 1720 at Cuddalore ; her memorial stone with its inscription remains.

Capt. John De Morgan married secondly Ann, who became the mother of Capt. Augustus De Morgan and other children; her maiden name is not known, as the mar- riage did not take place at Fort St. George. He had a brother William, who was also a sergeant in the Company's military service on the coast. He was promoted ensign in 1741, and died in 1749.

In French books of heraldry a coat of arms is assigned to a family of the name, which probably belonged to Brittany. There were many Frenchmen in the Company's service at different times ; these well-known names will be remembered Chardin, Hu- gonin, Du Pre.

On the subject of men of education going