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himself his father's supporters, differenced,
perhaps, with a label.
J. S. UDAL, F.S.A. Antigua, W.I.
"CEIBA" (10 S. vii. 288). This word belongs to the ancient language of Cuba and Hayti, which has long been extinct. Our only guide to the correct orthography is the usage of old authors. I believe that all old books have either q,eiba or qeyba. The cedilla is usual, though not really necessary. For instance, Oviedo, in his ' Historia Natural de las Indias,' which was written about 1535, though not published in full till 1851, has a chapter headed 'Del arbol llamado Ceyba.' I do not remember meeting with the spelling seiba earlier than the eighteenth century. It is used by Gilij in his ' Saggio di Storia Americana,' 1780. Seiba seems the favourite form in modern Cuban books. Pichardo, ' Diccio- nario de Vozes Cubanas,' 1862, has seiba, and so has Fort y Roldan, ' Cuba Indigena,' 1881. JAS. PLATT, Jun.
ANNE PLANTAGENET, DUCHESS OF EXETER (10 S. vii. 149, 298). As to the "puzzling discrepancies concerning the marriages of another Anne [who had better, I think, have been treated of under a separate heading] the sister of Henry, Duke of Exeter," they do not apparently exist. She married (as stated) two persons of the name of John Neville. Her sister of the half blood, also named Anne, was (as stated) wife in 1463 of " Thomas Ormonde," being daughter of " Anne, late Duchess of Exeter " (nee Montacute), i.e., her daughter by her first husband, Sir Richard Hankford ; while Lady Anne Holand, who married the Nevilles, was her daughter by her third husband, John (Holand), first Duke of Exeter. G. E. C.
" FIRES" FOR "CYMBALS" (10 S. vii. 289). This is no hard riddle. The English translator did not know what the Dutch beckens meant. He therefore took a shot, and thought it was the English word beacon, often used to mean a warning fire. The ' N.E.D.' quotes a good example of this from ' Piers Plowman.'
WALTER W. SKEAT.
[L. L. K. and MR. L. R. M. STRACHAN agree with PROF. SKEAT.]
FIFTH-MONARCHY MEN (10 S. vii. 290). In January, 1661, Thomas Venner, with forty men, set out from a meeting-house in oleman Street to overthrow the Govern- ment and set up the Fifth Monarchy. In Wood Street they had a sharp fight with the
King's guards, by whom those who were not
killed were captured. The prisoners were
tried at the Old Bailey, and Venner was
hanged before his meeting-house. For
further particulars and references consult
'D.N.B.,' Iviii. 212. The number of men
is there stated as " about fifty," but forty
was usually given in seventeenth-century
books ; e.g., Parker's ' Reproof to the
Rehearsal Transprosed,' 1673, pp. 223, 431,
483 : " Prince Vennor and his forty men,"
" Colonel Venner. . . .had forty men. . . .hey
for Woodstreet, hey for king Jesus ! "
W. C. B.
Dr. Thomas Sprat's sermon before the House of Commons at St. Margaret's, West- minster, on 30 Jan., 1677/8, referred to the uprising of the Fifth-Monarchy men on 6 Jan., 1661. The best account I know of is in Pepys's ' Diary.' There do not appear to have been more than forty men all told engaged in the disturbance.
JAMES H. MITCHINER.
This can only refer to the famous rising of the mad cooper Venner and his misguided followers in January, 1660/1. A circum- stantial account of the affair, taken from the ' Somers Tracts,' is given by Thornbury in his ' Old and New London,' vol. i. pp. 370- 371 (orig. ed.).
The number of insurrectionists is very variously estimated by contemporary writers. Burnet in his * History ' gives it as " not above twenty " ; while Rennet's ' Register ' informs us that there were fully three score.
MR. THORNTON may care to have his attention drawn to the fact that Evelyn has a favourable notice of the author of the sermon. Writing in his ' Diary ' under date 23 Nov., 1679, he says :
" I dined at the Bishop of Rochester's, and then went to St. Paul's to heare that greate wit Dr. Sprat, now newly succeeding Dr. Outram in the cure of St. Margaret's. His talent was a great memory, never making use of notes, a readiiiesse of expression in a most pure and plain style of words, full of matter, easily deliver'd."
WILLIAM MCMURRAY.
[MR. A. S. LEWIS and. MR. E. PEACOCK also refer to Venner.]
CHARLES I. : HIS PHYSICAL CHARACTER- ISTICS (10 S. vii. 169, 210, 252). A certain amount of idealization must doubtless be allowed for in the presentments which we
gossess of the physical appearance of harles I., just as, for example, in those of Napoleon, which seem to have derived from painters and medallists alike a beauty and
