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On the other hand, Sir G. R. Tyler (1835- 1897) did not wish for a baronetcy ; but had he declined it, the Sheriffs would not have got their knighthoods (for both personages see Boase's 'Modern English Biography '). Sir George Tyler's only son died without issue on 12 August last. RALPH THOMAS.

NONJURORS : REV. BENJAMIN WAY (10 S. viii. 229, 277, 297). Should COL. BINGLEY be interested in Nonjuring bibliography, his attention may be drawn with advantage to the lengthy account of various " Works by the Nonjurors " disposed of at Sotheby's on 5 and 6 June, 1857, given in 2 S. iii. 478. WILLIAM MCMURRAY.

HODSON OF THE INDIAN MtJTINY ( 10 S. viii. 348). MR. A. S. LEWIS may possibly find the information he requires in Mr. T. R. E. HoJmes's ' Last Words on Hodson of Hodson's Horse,' published in The English Historical Review, January, 1892 (reprinted in part in his ' Hist, of the Indian Mutiny,' 5th ed., App., as well as by Mr. Bosworth Smith in his 'Life of Lord Lawrence,' 6th ed., App.). Strange to say, this important article is not mentioned by Capt. Trotter in his ' A Leader of Light Horse,' Edinburgh, 1901. M. J. D. COCKLE.

Walton-on-Thanies.

PRE - REFORMATION PARSONAGES (10 S. viii. 109, 314). Numbers of these old presbyteries or priests' houses exist in all parts of England, although for the moment I can think of only one a fifteenth-century building at Walton, Glastonbury. It is not occupied by the rector. F. K.

WEST LONDON RIVERS (10 S. viii. 347). Something of interest apropos of this subject will be found in William Robbins's ' Paddington, Past and Present ' (? 1853), Part II., chap, i., General and Medical Topography, Drainage,' &c., pp. 103 to 116.

J. HOLDEN MAcMlCHAEL.

I desire to acknowledge, with thanks, the receipt of valuable information kindly sent by an anonymous correspondent at Slough.

S. D. CLIPPINGDALE, M.D. 36, Holland Park Avenue, W.

" BOTJVEAR, BOTTVIERE, OR BEAUVAIS (10 S.

viii. 251, 315). Among a number of fellow- passengers proceeding last year to the West Indies was an American gentleman of the name of Debevoise (accent on first syllable), who explained that it was the transatlantic corruption of his original family name of De Beauvais. I could not help


raying that he was not to be congratulated on the change. Perhaps something might be gathered from Mr. Debevoise or his friends in the U.S.A. F. K.

LONDON AND BIRMINGHAM RAILWAY : UNROOFED CARRIAGES (10 S. viii. 167, 234, 292, 357). There is a diversity of opinion in regard to the third-class accommodation on this line in its early days, as it is stated at the first reference that upon the opening to Boxmoor in 1837, the third-class coaches carried four passengers on each seat ; a year or two afterwards a lady returning to Northamptonshire (ante, p. 292), complains that she found the carriages had no roofs, and the water ran down on to the seats ; whilst later the passengers from Berk- hampsted in 1847 say (ante, p. 234), the vehicles were open trucks with hinged doors, but with no seats whatever, so that any one tired of standing had to sit upon the floor. This would lead any one to infer that the accommodation had degenerated, whereas in reality no other railway vehicle has so continuously improved as the third- class carriage, especially for long distances, from the crude, unroofed, and alleged seatless trucks to the vestibuled corridor carriage, with restaurant car, lavatory accommodation, temperature regulator, alarm communication with driver and guard, spring cushioned seats, electric light, venti- lators, curtained windows, and smoking compartments, while the fare of a penny a mile is practically the same in 1907 as in 1847. I have travelled from Euston Station over sixty years, and have always had a roof to the carriage and a seat to sit upon, but have never seen passengers sitting on the floor. CHARLES SHELLEY.

Liss PLACE (10 S. viii. 250). The earliest written reference to Liss (frequently called Lyss) is in Domesday Survey :

" The Abbess of Winchester holds Lis. It was always abbey land. It was assessed in the time of King Edward at five hides. It is now assessed at three hides. Here are four ploughlands and a half ; and a mill, which pays 16 pence ; and one acre and a half of meadow. Here are woods which furnisli 15 hogs. T.R.E. and afterwards it was worth 50 shillings. It is now worth the same sum, but it pays 4 pounds rent."

The abbey was that of Nunnaminster, and Liss was one of the six manors of the endowment given by King Alfred, and it remained such for over 600 years. The endowment of these manors not exceeding 200Z., Nunnaminster was among the first of the 376 religious houses to be suppressed