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Courtenay, and depose Philip and Mary- Proclaimed a traitor, he was received by the French king, Henry II., and continued his intrigues in France.

Sir Henry has generally been confused with Lord Henry Dudley above, who married Margaret, only daughter of Lord Chancellor Audley. A. R. BAYLEY.

The eldest son of John Dudley, Duke of Northumberland, viz., Henry Dudley, was, according to Loftie's ' Guide to the Tower of London,' " killed at the siege of Boulogne while still young." The second son, John, became Earl of Warwick, and his name is carved in the Beauchamp Tower. Ambrose, the third son, was in the Tower till 1555, and died in February, 1590. Guildford, the fourth son, was husband of Lady Jane Grey, and was executed in 1554. Robert, the fifth, became Queen Elizabeth's Earl of Leicester. Henry, the youngest, was killed at St. Quentin in 1558. G. H. W.

Froude calls Sir Henry Dudley a cousin of the Duke of Northumberland (' History of England,' vi. 7). He was implicated, not in the Wyatt, but in the Dudley conspiracy in 1556 (ibid., vi. 1-14). While most of the conspirators were arrested and suffered the death of traitors, Dudley succeeded in making his escape (ibid., vi. 11). He is again men- tioned in 1564 (ibid., vii. 196). W. SCOTT.

CHABLES I. MEDALLION (10 S. xii. 448). As no reply to the query of MB. JAMES has appeared, it may be worth while to mention that in the Catalogue of the Royal Stuart Exhibition in 1889 several silver memorial badges of Charles I. will be found, but there is no gold badge correspond- ing to that which is possessed by your correspondent.

I have myself a small silver badge intended for a pendant, with a fragment of white silk ribbon attached, which was given me by a deceased friend. It is an inch in length, and three-quarters of an inch in width. The motto round the shield is correctly given

mal y pense "), not as MB. JAMES reads

t on his medallion. There appear to be

some letters faintly engraved on the scroll

round the crown ; and at the base of the

shield are the figures " 51."

W. D. MACBAY. Ducklington Rectory, Witney.

"TALLY-HO": " YOICKS " (11 S. i. 48, 93, 135). The modern French has taiaut, of which, says Hatzfeld, the origin is unknown. But it may very well be the descendant of the Old French forms, given by Godefroy as


thiaulau, thialaut, thialhaut, thahaut. Other variants (already noted at p. 135) are thia hillaud aud'theau le liau. As Godefroy gives quotations for thiaulau, thialaut, thahaut, we have ample proof that the equivalent of our "tally-ho" was well known in Old French.

The spelling with th is curious, but it denotes no more than a t uttered with emphasis, and with a kind of aspiration.

What does it all mean ? I do not know, but Cotgrave has : " Te, tei, a voice which is used by the French when they call a dog." The form thialaut looks as if it might be resolved into tei ilau, with tei as above, and the O.F. ilau, used by Wace, and quoted by Moisy, who gives the Norman ilau, ilo, as meaning "la, en cet endroit," and derives it from L. illo, sc. in illo loco. It is probable that the original cry had some quite simple source.

Dr. Brewer, as usual, calmly makes up his facts : " Tally-ho is the Norman hunting cry, Taillis au, to the coppice." Unfor- tunately, that is nonsense ; for, in the first place, it should be au taillis, and secondly, even this is quite modern French. The Old French form was taille'is, in three syllables (see Hatzfeld) ; moreover, Norman French did not drop its final s. You can drop the s in F. treillis, but certainly not in the E. trellis. So it is clearly all invention.

As to yoicks, it seems to be all that is left of an O.F. adverb meaning "there!" for which Godefroy has twenty-nine different spellings ; perhaps ilueques, illeosques, illosques, iloyques, may serve as specimens. The form iloyques is not far off. Yoicks may easily have come from a form illoyques, with II pronounced as Hi in million, and loss of initial il. WALTEB W. SKEAT.

It will save some ingenuous suggestions, such as keeping tally, &c., to say what " tally-ho " means, and has always meant, with us. It is the view-halloa of a right fox (i.e., not a gravid vixen), or, later in the day, of the right fox -(i.e., the hunted, not a fresh one.)

Brewer's 4 Dictionary ' has been quoted : it is use tul in matters of historical lore, but is deplorable in its derivations.

In accordance with the above explanation, a fox can be said to have been ' ' tallied away," out of cover. H. P. L.

As to the unde derivatur of " tally-ho " see ' The Noble Science,'- by F. P. Delme Rad- liffe (Ackermann, 1839), pp. 14 8-9.

STAPLETON MABTIN. The Firs, Norton, Worcester.