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and Hugh, but Gilbert was a common name in the family, of which there were many branches.

2. As to Maud de Lacy. The covenant for dower by David FitzWilliam, Baron of Naas, with his mother, Matilda du Pont de 1'Arche, is dated 23 March, 1227 (' Gormans- ton Register,' f. 19 Id). This gives the approximate date of his succession (cf. ' Cal. Docs., Irel.,' i. 1551). Hugh de Lacy's grant of Carlingford, &c., to his daughter Maud on her marriage with David, Baron of Naas, is for this reason, as well as for that already given (ix. 331, par. 3), to be dated in or after 1227. She may have been born c. 1210 or later. Maud de Lacy, Lady of Xaas, was alive on 15 Jan., 1279 ('Cal. Docs., Irel.,' ii. 1523), but was clearly dead in 1302 perhaps for many years (' Justiciary Rolls,' i. 434).

3. When I said I had " a suggestion to make by and by " as to Lesceline's death (ix. 330, par. 1 ), I was referring by anticipa- tion to my later paragraph o, where I sug- gested that Lesceline, not Emeline, was the wife said to have been abandoned before 1225. Lesceline may have died at any time between that date and the date of Hugh's marriage with Emeline, which in my view did not take place until towards the end of Hugh's life. At any rate, there is no reason to doubt that all Hugh's legitimate offspring, including Maud, were by Lesce- line. It is very improbable that he had any children by Emeline. Had any issue of his by her survived, we should certainly have heard of them as heirs of the Ridelesford lands.

4. Finally, MR. RELTON asks me what date I assign for the births of Emeline and Ela de Ridelesford. The early date (1212-16) assigned by MR. ST. CLAIR BAD- DELEY for the marriage of Emeline (viii. 172) is due, I fancy, to the supposition that she was a daughter of Strongbow's feoffee ; but I think I have shown pretty conclusively that there were two successive Walters de Ridelesford (presumably father and son), and that Emeline and Ela were daughters of the latter (ix. 331, par. 6). I have arrived at a much later date for Emeline's marriage, not only for the reasons given in ix. 331, par. 5, but also from the following considerations. Robert de Mariscis, Ela's husband, died shortly before 19 Aug., 1240 (' Cal. Docs., Irel.,' i. 2493). From a document assigned to October or November, 1248 (ibid., 2970), but to be probably dated at least a year or two earlier Henry Tyrel, one of the jurors, appears to have been dead


before August, 1247 (ibid., 2892) I gather that Robert had not been long married whe i he died. In this document Christiana, his heir by Ela, is said to have been then " almost seven years of age." She was, therefore, born c. 123940. As she was apparently the only child of the marriage, the presumption is that Ela was married c. 1238-9. Emeline, said to have been her elder sister, may have been married to Hugh de Lacy a little earlier. On these premises we may provisionally assign tho years 1217-23 as the period within which the sisters were probably born. Heiresses, whether prospective or actual, married young. Walter de Ridelesford, their father, was alive in 1237 (' Cal. Docs., Irel.,' i. 2418), when, to judge by his record, he must have been still in the full vigour of life ; and th'? first intimation we have of his death is 16 May, 1244 (ibid., 2663), when he was presumably only lately dead. I do not know to what family his wife belonged, but Emeline's mother's name was Annora. See Emeline's quit-claim to the Canons of Ashby (Dugdale, ' Mon. Angl.,' 292-3).

GODDARD H. ORPEN.

PALM THE BOOKSELLER, SHOT BY NAPO- LEON (11 S. x. 10). I know two German biographies of Palm : Soden, ' Johann Philipp Palm ' (Nuerenberg, 1814), and Rackl, ' Der Nuernberger Buchhaendler Johann Philipp Palm, ein Opfer Napoleon- ischer Willkuer ' (Nuerenberg, 1906).

DR. STEPHAN KEKULE VON STRADONITZ.

Berlin-Lichterfelde.

I am not aware of the existence of any biography of Palm in English, but there aro very numerous references to him in English boolcs. The fullest account in any modern reference book is in Larousse's ' Grand Dictionnaire,' but without going outside our own country MR. F. C. WHITE will find a brier biography in Timperley's ' Dictionary.' ' Tho Annual Register,' vol. xlviii., has somo interesting notes, and it prints the letter which Palm wrote to his wife an hour or so before execution, dated from " the dungeon of the military prison of Braunau, August 26, 1806 six o'clock in the morning." When Napoleon had circulated all over the Conti- nent 6,000 copies of the sentence upon Palm, the patriots of Germany responded by send- ing out 60,000 copies of this letter.

Lanfrey, vol. ii. chap, xv., has some para- graphs on the subject, and Fournier's new ' Life of Napoleon,' vol. i. pp. 420 and 503, should be consulted. Fyffe's 'Modern Europe ' and Miss Martineau's volume introductory to