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NOTES AND QUERIES, [ii s. XIL JULY 2*, 1915.


Catalog IDDH JV3, Amsterdam, Frederik jMuller, 1868, No. 106, notes the 1768 as the tfirst edition, which is incorrect, and that only 100 copies were issued. An imperfect edition was published in Berlin in 1796 under the

title of ?TW ?1p ; and under its original title it again appeared in Vienna in 1839. 'The author's portrait is to be found in rthe ' Gallery of Hebrew Poets,' London, Greenberg & Co., 80, Chancery Lane, W.C. {n.d.). On the margin under the portrait dt is stated that he was born at St. Daniele, Italy, in 1736, and that he died at Lusanna,

Belg., in 1801. The Luzzattos were a
famiiy of eminent Italian scholars whose

-:genealogy can be traced back to the first 2ia]f of the sixteenth century.

ISBAEL SOLOMONS.

DR. AIXEN, OBIIT 1579 (11 S. x. 109, 297,

.3-00 ). Through the kindness of my friend

the Rev. J. H. Pollen, S.J., I have ascer- tained that there was a Jesuit Dr. Allen about this time, but that he certainly was not the man for whom I am searching.

Father Pollen writes as follows :

"Father Nathaniel Sofcwellus (vere Bacon) in his -'Catalogus Primorum Patrum ' (Stony hurst MSS., in. 53) writes (about 1640 or so) :

" ' Rodolphus Alanus, Londinensis, annorum 28, admissus Lugduni 1576 (Catalogus Avenionse anno 1587). Legerat tune ille casus conscientise, et iam "Theologiam Seholasticam docebat A venionse. '

"Father Southwell ( = Bacon) was the Secretary -to the whole Society, and thus had access to all the official papers at an early date/'

Father Southwell thus bears witness that one Ralph Allen, of the diocese of Xondon, aged 28, was admitted to the Society of Jesus at Lyons in 1576, being then already a priest and a lecturer in moral theology, and that in 1587 he was teaching dogmatic theology at Avignon, and so must have taken the degree of D.D.

As in Bridge water's ' Concert atio ' (1588) lie is stated to have died in exile, he must have died at Avignon in 1587 or 1588. He entered the English College at Douay in 1572, and was ordained priest in 1575, taking the degree of Bachelor, and being sent to England that same year ; but as he was alive in 1587 he is evidently not the man I want, though at the first refer- ence I maintained the contrary.

There was, however, a Roger Allen, whom Bridgewater records to have died in txile in or before 1588. He was a M.A., and of "the diocese of St. Asaph. He was ordained sub-deacon and deacon in 1575 and priest In 1578, in which vear he is stated to have ireturned to England.


Roger Allen may well have been the Dr. Allen, priest, who is said to have landed at Bilbao with James Fitzmaurice Fitzgibbon in August, 1578, coming from France. On the other hand, there is nothing to show that Roger Allen, M.A., was ever a D.D., or aM.D., or a Jesuit, and Hooker states that the Dr. Allen who died on 3 Oct., 1579, at Monaster- anenagh was an Irishman and a Jesuit.

As I have stated at the first reference, both Froude and Mr. Bagwell think that Dr. Allen was an Englishman ; and Hooker is a most untrustworthy chronicler. So perhaps it may be shown that Roger Allen is the person in question. I should be very grateful for any light on the identity of this Dr. Allen. It seems highly probable that Roger has been confused with Ralph, as these men were already confused in the Douay Diaries.

JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.

" HEBE WE COME GATHERING NUTS AND MAY" (11 S. xi. 493). B. C. S. mixes two distinct games : ' Nuts i' May ' and ' Here comes Three Dukes a-Ridin', O.' In the first game I was taught to say " knots of may," but all 'the players sang " nuts in May " as they went out to pull the blossoming boughs from the hedges as soon as the may was out enough. The long boughs were twisted into bows or knots, and then the children ran back to the village. In Mid-Derbyshire to sing,

Here we come gathering nuts in May

On a cold and frosty morning,

as they waved the bows or knots over their heads," was suitable enough, for when may- blossom came out the mornings were mostly frosty and cold, as I well remember.

The other game, 'Here comes Three Dukes,' was played very differently, and later in the year. The biggest girl among the players was the mother, and " three dukes "* come to ask her daughter in marriage. The mother sat on a tuft or a stone, and the rest of the players formed up in a row before her with their hands joined, and, moving a few steps backwards and forwards, sang :

Here comes three dukes a-riding, ! The Mother : Pray, what is your good will, sir ? Reply : Here come three dukes a-riding, ! With a ransy tansy turby so !

The Mother : Pray, what is your good will, sir ? Reply : We come to court your daughter Jane,

With a ransy tansy tee.

The Mother : You look so black and so brown, sir 1 No ! with a ransy tansy tee.