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NOTES AND QUERIES. [11 s. vm. DEC is 1013.
tithes legally claimable from him. He
admitted that he had had
"two hennes and three duckes, feedinge and .settinge within Debden parish : of the said hennes he had fortie eggs laid, and no more ; and, of the ducks, thirtie eggs laid, and no more. And everie score (?) of the eggs worth \\d. [Tithes of] the said <eggs are not to be paid unlesse they be demaunded ^it Easter, aocordinge to an auncient custome."
A. CLARK. Great Leighs Rectory, Chelmsford.
ST. MARY-LE-BOW : PETITION FOR FLAGS. The following is copied from the Admiralty Records, Adm. 1/5130 :
No. 9, Trump S*, Honey Lane Market,
Cheapside.
Sir, On the occasion of the Prince Regent and tiis Royal Visitors, dining with the Corporation of London on Saturday, it is our wish as Church- wardens of S* Mary le Bow, to make the streets in our Parish thro' which the Procession will pass. AS gay as possible, and for that purpose we are "desirous of obtaining :
An English Flag, A Russian do.
An Austrian do. A Prussian do.
A Spanish do.
A Portuguse [sic] den
to be suspended in Cheapside from Bow Church J we find it quite impracticable to obtain them in private Channels, of sufficient size, and have there- fore taken the liberty of asking you to Procure us -the loan of them (or any of them), pledging our- selves that they shall be properly taken care of, .and returned on Monday.
We have the honour to be, Sir, Your most obedient & Humble Servants, William Thomson,
C. Warden of S* Mary le Bow. To J Hubborn.
J. W. Croker, Esq.
[Endorsed] June 17 [1814], Letter to the Controller to supply them
with such as he can spare. Acq* them.
The French flag, it will be noticed, is con- spicuous by its absence.
E. H. FAIRBROTHER.
AN ERROR IN ' D.N.B.' : RODEN. The following sentence occurs in the account of Robert Jocelyn, first Earl of Roden (1731- 1797) : " On 9 Sept. 1771 he was created Earl of Roden of High Roding, co. Tippe- rary."
This statement, short as it is, nevertheless contains two errors, of which the former is, however, corrected in the ' Errata ' to the
- D.N.B.' The date should be 1 December.
The second mistake concerns the locality of High Roding, which is not in Tipperary, but in Essex. It was pointed out in The Essex Review for 1904 (p. 237), but it should, I
think, be given the wider publicity of
' N. & Q.' The Jocelyn family for many
generations owned the manor of High
Roding or Roothing. JOHN T. KEMP.
Cgtrm^s.
WE must request correspondents desiring in- formation on family matters of only private interest to affix their names and addresses to their queries, in order that answers may be sent to them direct.
" BEAU-PRE." As everybody knows,
beau-pere is used in a double and totally
different sense, signifying both a " step-
father " and a "father-in-law." Is there
no second term in French to distinguish one
from another ? The first meaning of beau-
pere, a stepfather, is explained and rendered
likewise by Littre and others as " second
mari de la mere, pere par alliance." But
this is a mere paraphrase, and not a special
or compound word as in most other European
languages, where a stepfather and a father-
in-law are denoted by two different terms.
Compare, for example, Ital. patrigno, Span.
padrasto, Germ. Stiefvater, Russ. otchim,
Irish-Gaelic leas-atair, Cymric -Welsh llys-
dad= stepfather, with Ital. suocero, Span.
suegro, Germ. Schwiegervater, Russ. svekor, Ir.-
Gaelic atair cliamain, Cymric -Welsh tad yn
nghyfraeth= father-in-law. In Welsh there
is even a second ancient and curious term
denoting a stepfather found in Owen Pughe's
Welsh-Eng. dictionary, tad gwyn, literally
"white-father," to which also Prof. Sir
John Rhys refers in a foot-note of his Preface
to Malory's ' Morte d' Arthur ' (Lond., 1906),
p. xviii. " He compares this use of gwyn with
beau in beau-pere, and states that a step-
father is still respectfully called tad gwyn in
Mid-W r ales. As Sir John Rhys kindly tells
me, his own father had a stepmother whom
he called in Cymric mam wen, i.e., literally
equal to belle-mere. H. KREBS.
GROOM OF THE STOLE. Was not this Court official originally the gentleman who attended to the Royal stole- or stool- chamber, to see that it was always in proper order ? There are notices of this apartment from Tudor to Georgian times, and it appears that the office might be held by a lady for a lady. In 1684T the Countess of Clarendon was Lady of the Bedchamber and Groom of the Stole" attached to the Court of the Princess of Denmark. There was an officer with the same duties in the French Court. J- T, F.
Durham.
