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NOTES AND QUERIES. [ii s. v. JUNE 29, 1912.


or colony in the State of New York. The club was formed in June, 1886. MB. HERON- ALLEN may have been in New York at the time, as he says that on his return to England in 1889, "after three years' residence in America, I found nearly all ' smart ' men wearing dinner-jackets." Earlier in his reply he also says : " This garment came into general use in 1888." I assume, how- ever, that as MR. HERON -ALLEN was in America at that date, he can only speak for the fashions in the United States. How- ever, I believe that the dinner-jacket came to England by way of America at much the same time that the black tie for evening wear was first generally used. Both these fashions are more general even to-day in America than in England.

It would be interesting, of course, to get the correct date, and I would suggest that the editor of that bright paper The Tailor and Cutter might contribute his knowledge on the subject. JOHN LANE.

The Bodley Head, New York.

'RULE, BRITANNIA': TEXT (11 S. v.

309, 415). In the masque 'Alfred' (1740)

the second stanza runs thus : The nations, not so blest as thee, Must, in their turns, to tyrants fall : While thou shalt flourish great and free, The dread and envy of them all.

So Palgrave, save that he gives turn for " turns." Unless I am mistaken, the un- grammatical "thee" in 1. 1, is usually avoided in singing by substituting either " thou " (the rime being thus sacrificed) or by putting " she " and then " she shall " in 1. 3. The " thee " might perhaps be defended as a gallicism. During the French con- stitutional crisis under Mashal MacMahon in 1877 I heard an eminent professor at the Sorbonne, in a lecture on England, recite, with evident emotion, the whole poem. His version of 11. 1 and 2 of this stanza was as follows :

Les nations moms heureuses que toi Toutes a leur tour subiront le joug.

Can this " thee " be readily paralleled in

a writer as correct as Thomson ?

W. A. C.

LOGAN, LATJGHAN (11 S. v. 290). In the ' Patronymica Britannica ' it is stated that the name Logan is of Celtic origin, and signifies a hollow surrounded by high ground ; also a plain. It is synonymous with Logie, and occurs both singly and as a prefix in several Scotch place-names. One of the Irish forms is Laggan. N. W. HILL.

New York.


FRANCES, DUCHESS OF SUFFOLK (11 S. v. 427). ' The Nine Days' Queen,' by Richard Davey, p. 239, states :

" The first limitation decided upon by the young King was to the Lady Frances's issue male, born before the King's death, and, failing them, the Lady Jane's issue male.... The next best arrangement would have been the nomina- tion of the Lady Prances ; Northumberland, however, could not approve of such a scheme, since it would have placed the weight of power in the hands of the Duke of Suffolk, her husband. At last, all plans failing, Edward decided to nominate the Lady Jane Grey as his successor to the throne. . . .the words in the ' Devise ' ' to the L' Janes heires masles ' were now changed to> ' fo the L' Jane and her heires masles.'

There is a foot-note at p. 240 :

" Antoine de Noailles informs us in his Notes that the Lady Frances was very sore over the way in which her succession to the Crown was set aside by King Edward in favour of her daughter Jane ; and the Duke of Suffolk had some difficulty in inducing her to accept the situation."

And at p. 253 :

" Pollino informs us that universal indignation

was expressed by the onlookers when they beheld

the Duchess-mother, who was rightful heiress,

playing the part of train-bearer to her daughter."

R. J. FYNMORE.

The Duchess was evidently passed over by Northumberland in favour of her daughter, the Lady Jane Grey, in order that by the intermarriage of their children the Crown might be transferred from the house of Tudor to that of Dudley.

Henry Tudor, Earl of Richmond, had won his kingdom by the sword on Bosworth Field. But his claim, such as it was, to the throne came through his mother, the Lady Margaret Beaufort ; although one must remember also that his father was uterine brother to Henry VI., the victor of Agincourt's widow, Katherine of Valois, having married (if she really married) Owen Tudor. A. R. BAYLEY.

CASANOVIANA : EDWARD TIRETTA (US. iv. 461 ; v. 19). Sydney C. Grier's ' Letters of Warren Hastings to his Wife ' gives a pleasing glimpse of Tiretta in his later life :

" In 1797, he writes to Hastings to congratulate him on the result of the Trial, and to introduce- his sister-in-law, Miss Josephin Carrion, who is coming to England under the care of Colonel White's widow, Hastings' cousin, to receive ' an education suitable to her Birth and to my family;' He is sure that a ' sensible soul like yours ' will receive ' the little young lady ' with kindness, regarding her as ' not a sister-in-law, but a Daughter,' to Tiretta."

A. FRANCIS STEUART.