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In an old volume of The Antiquary, 1887, ii., I find the following note, which has, perhaps, something to do with the question :

" Mr. Laver showed [on Oct. 21, to the Essex Archaeological Society] a drawing of a coffin [in lead, as it is spoken of a little above] with a piece of tube about two inches in diameter sticking out of the lid, over where the face of the deceased was placed. He could give no reason for this strange and hitherto unique addition."

Perhaps some reader of ' N. & Q.' may be more successful than the honourable member of the Essex Archaeological Society. I have not at hand the volume of The Antiquary giving (MI recount of the next meeting, when the question was, perhaps, studied again and resolved. PIERRE TURPIN.

The Bayle, Folkestone.


FRODSHAM (12 S. i. 49). There are two main branches of the .Frodsham family existing now : (1) a Cheshire branch, and (2) a London branch.

1. The Cheshire branch trace their descent through Henry of Hapsford, the fourth son of John Frodsham of Elton and Mary Savage, his wife (1620-68). The Elton property, which came into the Frodsham family on the marriage of William de Frodsham with Isabel!, granddaughter of Thomas de Elton (Inq. 35 Edward III., 1362), passed to Edward, the third son of John Frodsham, 1668, but his heirs male failed two genera- tions later, in 1766, with the death of Peter Frodsham of Elton. The estate was then alienated by the marriage of Elizabeth Frodsham, sister of Peter Frodsham, with George Hodson of Thurstaston. Elton, which came with a woman, went with a woman four hundred years later. The Elton pedigree ended, so far as the Frodshams were concerned, with the death of Peter Frodsham in 1766, but the Frodsham

pedigree, linked on, as stated above, with Henry of Hapsford, still continues. The senior representative of this branch of the family is the Right Rev. George Horsfall Frodsham. Ca-non of Gloucester, and until lately Bishop of North Queensland. The first known connexion of the Frodsham family with Hapsford was acquired in 1268 by Thomas de Elton. Elton Hall is now a farmhouse. The last Hodson died without issue a few years ago.

2. The London branch of the Frodshams begins to appear in the register of the City early in the seventeenth century. By the use of the same Christian names and arms they appear to have come from Cheshire, but no definite connexion can be traced. It is


conceivable that a cadet of the Frodshams may have gone to London in the train of Sir Thomas Challoner, whose mother was Etheldreda, the daughter of Edward Frod- sham. of Elton, circa 1536. Sir Thomas Challoner was educated under the direction of Lord Treasurer Burleigh, and was the discoverer of the first alum mine known in this kingdom. He accompanied King James I. to London, and was entrusted afterwards with the care of Prince Henry's education. There are numerous members of this branch of the family who trace their pedigree to William James Frodsham, F.R.S., 1779-1850. Among them are CoL W. James Holmes Frodsham of Mettingham, and the Rev. T. E. C. Frodsham of Uplyme, Lyme Regis. Some of the female members of this branch of the family are notable educationalists, the daughters of the late Mr. Gee rge Frodsham of London.

CESTRIAN.

PAPAL INSIGNIA (12 S. i. 50). The arms of the Popes from 1198 to 1878 are repre- sented uncoloured, but probably sufficiently for MR. CLAPPERTON'S purpose, on pp. 549-54 of part iv. of the Misses Tuker and Malleson's ' Handbook to Christian and Ecclesiastical Rome ' (London, 1900).

JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.

" STAIG " (12 S. i. 68). The reviewer of Sir James Wilson's book is correct in saying that, whatever may be the practice in Strathearn, there are Scottish districts in which the staig is an unbroken colt or filly. It is so, for example, in Fifeshire, w r hich is not very far from the parish with which Sir James Wilson's work is concerned. In early summer a Fife farmer will say that he has just sent the staigs to pasture for the season, and he would be much surprised to find that his remark was supposed to allude to a group of stallions. This fact, and the evidence of Sir James Wilson and MR. BULLOCH, show that the term is differently used in different places. In his song ' There Leevit a Carle in Kellyburn Braes,' Burns has the line :

It's neither your stot nor your staig ; and one of his most trustworthy editors says that " staig " means " a two-year-old horse," while another simply gives the annotation " horse." Neither, apparently, had been reared in Strathearn or the county of Aberdeen. In the ' Scottish Dictionary ' Jamieson gives the primary meaning as " a horse of one, two, or three years old," and adds, " The term is more generally applied to>