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NOTES AND QUERIES.


[12 S. I. MAY 6, 1916.


Bibbiena ' (Raphael) rings first and third of right hand, fourth of left ; ' A Canon and his Patron Saints ' (Gerard David) bishop with ring on third of right hand, another with rings on first and third of right hand ; ' Archbishop Warham ' (Holbein) no rings ; ' Pope Paul III.' (Titian) ring on third of right hand ; ' Lubeck Altarpiece ' (Memling) bishop with rings on third of right hand, thumb, first, and second of left hand.

MARQUIS DE TOUBNAY.

The following is taken from R. A. S. Macalister's ' Ecclesiastical Vestments ' (1896), p. 123:

" The evidence of the monuments is conclusive on two points. First, that the episcopal ring proper was only one of a large number of rings worn by the bishop, the others being probably purely ornamental and secular ; second, that it was worn on the third finger of the right hand, and above the second joint of that finger, not being passed, as rings are now, down to the knuckle. It was usually kept in place with a plain guard ring. The (episcopal) ring was always a circlet with a precious stone, never engraved, and it was large enough to pass over the gloved finger. The stone was usually a sapphire, sometimes an emerald or a ruby."

A. R. BAYLEY.

DERBYSHIRE INSCRIBED STONE (11 S. i. 29). Seyssel, a village on the Rhone below Geneva.

Cross keys are arms of Bishops of Geneva. D. L. GALBREATH.

Montreux, Switzerland.

JOHNNIE FOSTER : ST. ANDREW'S : LAY VICARS (12 S. i. 134, 214, 313). L. G. R. says that in 1856-7 All Saints', Margaret Street, was still in course of building, and was not completed before 1859 or later. I was quite aware that the present All Saints' was con- secrated on May 28, 1859, but it stands on the site of Margaret Chapel, which was famous as an advanced church before St. Andrew's was built. The latter was consecrated on Jan. 28, 1847. The district of All Saints' was formed in 1849, and the Rev. W. Upton Richards, minister of Margaret Chapel, was made its first incum- bent. His predecessor, Mr. Oakeley, had joined the Church of Rome.

Margaret Chapel was pulled down in 1850, but the building of the new church was delayed through lack of funds. Meanwhile, the services were held in a temporary All Saints' Chapel in Titchfield Street ; and were afterwards (in 1855) removed to a new one in Margaret Street, which I believe still exists behind the houses on the south side, and is used by the All Saints' Sisterhood.


Hence it is literally true that there was an All Saints', Margaret Street, whilst Foster- was still at St. Andrew's, for he left in 1856, His choir had assisted at the last service in Margaret Chapel on April 8, 1850.

As H. S. thinks that Canterbury Cathedral had no Abbot, I would direct his attention to the following statement in ' The Encyclo- paedia Britannica ' (' Abbot ') :

"In conventual cathedrals, where the bishop- occupied the place of the abbot, the functions usually devolving on the superior of the monastery were performed by a prior." .

I imagine, therefore, that the Archbishop of Canterbury was at least nominally the- Abbot of his cathedral.

Some may have supposed from my last communication that every cathedral of the old foundation except Hereford has lay vicars choral at the present time ; but there are two exceptions, viz., York and Lincoln. At the former the choirmen are called " song men," and at the latter " lay clerks " ; and at neither place are they on the foundation. I remember reading some years ago that the- Chapter at Lincoln had bought out the lay vicars, though how this could be done,, unless they had an Act of Parliament to legalize it, I do not know ; for the lay vicars could not surely sell property in which they had only a life interest. I am quite ignorant as to how and when the change was brought about at York ; but it is admitted that at one time there were thirty vicars choral, and that now there are only five all of them m- priests' orders, and performing the duties of minor canons.

At the modern Cathedral of Truro the titles of priest vicars and lay vicars are used,, and I suppose because they are used with more reason at Exeter, for it was from the- diocese of Exeter that the new one of Truro was taken. W. A. FROST.

St. Paul's Cathedral.

CHARLES LAMB'S FOLIO ' BEAUMONT AND- FLETCHER ' (12 S. i. 267). " The book was sold at Sotheby's in 1870, with five other folios, for eight shillings and sixpence." Lucas's ' Life of Charles Lamb,' vol. ii.. p. 313. WM. H. PEET.

JOHN PlGOTT OF THE 12TH REGIMENT (12 S-

i. 288). He was gazetted Captain 12th Foot Dec. 26, 1778. He appears to have been promoted from the 59th, in which regiment he was a lieutenant with seniority Dec. 25,. 1770. ASTLEY TERRY, Major- General. 48 Combe Park, Bath.