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294 NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 S.X.APRH, 15,1022. May not this have been a Devonshire cider manufactured in the South Hams, a name somewhat indefinitely applied to the district south of Dartmoor, and occupying a large part of the region between the Teign and the Plym, with Kings- bridge as its chief centre, and consequently described as " Southam cyder " ? D. K. T. THE VINE TAVERN, MILE END : THE STEPNEY MANOR LORDSHIP (12 S. x. 191, 253). To prevent misunderstanding it is necessary to explain that by his first wife, Anne (who died in 1638), the Earl of Cleveland, head of the Wentworths who " acquired " the ecclesiastical Manor of Stepney, had six children, Sir Thomas (1613-1665) ; Anne, Maria, William and Charles, who all died as children; and Anne (1623-1697), who married John Lovelace and inherited the Barony of Wentworth and the Stepney Manor Lordship from her hapless niece, Henrietta Maria, who died in 1686, nine months after the execution of her lover and child playmate, the Duke of Monmouth. On Anne Lovelace's death (May 7, 1697) the Wentworth estate and privileges de- scended to her granddaughter, Martha, only surviving child of John Lovelace, the third Lord Lovelace of Hurley. Hen- rietta's mother, Philadelphia, did not shuffle off this mortal coil until May 4, 1696, some years after the arranged Revolution in England, and during her life she appears to have exercised great authority in Went- worthian affairs, at least in the Stepney Manor. (By the by, it ought not to be for- gotten that the Duke of Monmouth, even on the scaffold, maintained boldly that his connexion with Henrietta Wentworth was " blameless in the eyes of God " ; that Henrietta had " reclaimed him from his licentious life " ; that (a monstrous un- truth) he " had remained faithful to her " as faithful as King Charles II., his reputed uncle, was to Nell Gwynne. Then, turning to the crowd below the scaffold, he re- iterated that Henrietta was " a lady of virtue and honour a very virtuous and godly woman.") Martha, Baroness Wentworth and Stepney Manor Lord, married Sir Henry Johnson, the great shipbuilder of Blac'kwall, and she lived to assist in the pomp and circum- stance of the coronation of Queen Anne. However, Stepney Manor and its " rights " were " alienated " by the Wentworthian family in 1720 to John Wicke of Horsham, whose son disposed of it to his brother-in- law, George Colebrooke, whose descendants continue holders. Me. THE MONTFORT FAMILIES (12 S. x. 204, 254). No doubt MR. R. M. DEELEY is cor- rect in holding that no English families of" Montfort are descended from Simon de Montfort or his house ; but I think that Dugdale has led him into two errors con- cerning the house of Montfort-sur-Risle. 1. Robert de Torigny, in his continuation of William de Jumieges, states that Hugh de Montfort II. had issue, by his first marriage a daughter married to Gilbert de Gant,. and by his second marriage two sons, Hugh III. and Robert (' Guil. de Jumieges,' ed. Marx, pp. 260, 261). Why Dugdale should assign the sons to the first marriage and the daughter to the second is incomprehensible ~ It was Le Prevost who exploded the legend that Gilbert de Gant (Gaunt, Ghent or Gand) sprang from the Counts of Flanders, and showed that he was brother of Baldwin de Gant, Lord of Alost, and son of Ralph (see his note on ' Orderic,' vol. iii., p. 360). Dr. Round showed that Hugh II. had another daughter, Adeline, who eventually carried her father's English barony to her husband, Robert de Vere (' Geoffrey de Mandeville,' p. 326). For chronological reasons, I have recently suggested that Adeline was the child of an unrecorded third marriage, but this is only a conjecture (see my paper on ' Constables under the Norman Kings ' in The Genealogist, January. 1922). 2. Dugdale also seems to be responsible ! for attaching Thurstan de Montfort (founder | of the Warwickshire family) to the second house of Montfort-sur-Risle, which descended from Gilbert de Gant and Alice de Montfort. Dr. Round wrote : Dugdale is terribly at sea in his account ol the Montfort descent, wrongly affiliating the War- wickshire Thurstan (ancestor of the Lords Mont- fort) to the Kentish house, and confusing hi& generations wholesale (especially in the case of Adeline, wife of William de Breteuil). (' Geoffrey de Mandeville,' p. 327.) Any evidence on the real parentage of this Thurstan de Montfort would be very welcome. G. H. WHITE, 23, Weighton Road, Anerley. SERMON AT PAUL'S CROSS, 1577 (12 S. x. 249). New style was not introduced into England until 1752. Under old style Dec. 9, 1576, was Sunday (the second Sunday