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I am desirous of identifying the subject
of the portrait. To my mind, the following
are out of court :
1. Edward Lloyd, Lloyd's Coffee-Hottse, 1688-1726.
2. Sampson Lloyd, founder of Lloyd's Bank, Birmingham.
The next is doubtful : Charles, son of Sampson Lloyd, born 1748. There only remain :
1. Rev. Lewis Loyd, who married Sarah, dau. of John Jones, in 1796, and became a member of Jones, Loyd & Co. of Manchester and London.
2. Samuel Jones Loyd, son of the above, who was born 1796.
WM ASHETON TONGE. Disley.
" BUT CHING . ' ' The Cornish and Devon Post (Launceston), recording on March 9 the death of a townsman, observes that as a young man " he learned the butching, and held a stall in the meat market for some time." The term " the butching," as an equivalent for the trade of a butcher, was familiar to me in Launceston many years ago ; but I do not remember previously to have seen it in print. Is it purely local ?
DUNHEVED.
GERONTIUS'S DREAM. Can any of your readers inform me where I can find a good account of the above? ' The Ency. Brit.' has several brief notices of Gerontius, but I can find none of his dream. A. W. D.
OLIVER CROMWELL'S DAUGHTER : SIR JOHN RUSSEL. Can any reader give me in- formation regarding the descendants of Frances, daughter of Oliver Cromwell ? She was born in 1638, married secondly Sir John Russel, of the Chequers Russell family, and died in 1719. A Belgian family whom I have met with during the War have the names Oliver and Russel 'in their family for some generations back, and claim descent from the Protector through a grandmother who was born in Virginia, U.S.A. I am anxious to know whether any of the family of the Sir John Russel referred to are known to have emigrated to America. J. C. ARNOLD, Capt.
"GAMP" AS ADJECTIVE. Did Dickens attach any particular meaning to this word in making it the surname of the immortal Sarah ? In' Martin Chuzzlewit,' chap xxvi. she is represented as saying, " Gamp is my name, and Gamp my nater." In a fugitive piece by Dickens, in Forster's ' Life,'
book vi. i., occurs this passage : " ' Have-
I not the pleasure,' he says, looking afc
me curious, ' of addressing Mrs. Gamp ? '
' Gamp I am, sir,' I replies. ' Both by
name and natur.' "
The * N.E.D.' gives the adjective gamp- as Scotch, " Playful, sportive," with one quotation from a Scotch song. The ' E.D.D.' has nothing more to the purpose- But Mrs. Gamp did not assume a sportive- character ; she aimed rather at being solemnly impressive, and pathetic.
1 J. T. F.
Winterton, Doncaster.
" VITTA LATTA " : NAPOLEON'S ' MOLLERE. In a reference to a book in the library at Longwood belonging to Napoleon, on p. 243 of ' Apres la Mort de 1'Empereur,' bjr Alberic Cahuet, is the following sentence :
" Ce Moliere de Sainte-Helene est marqu6 du timbre imperial et de 1'ex-libris de son dernier possesseur, ' Ex-libris Joseph- Nap.-^-Com. Primoli. r avec cette devise : ' Vitta Latta. Libro Pace.' "
I should be grateful for a translation, and explanation, of the last words, particularly of " Vitta Latta." LEES KNOWLES, Bt.
Westwood, Pendlebury.
" BOLD INFIDELITY ! TURN PALE
DIE." Can any reader say who wrote the
following epitaph, or, in absence of any
author, give the date of the gravestone on
which it first occurs ?
Bold Infidelity ! turn pale and die. Beneath this stone three infants' ashes lie ;. Say, are they lost or saved ? &c.
J. W. F.
[Mr. E. R. Suffling in his ' Epitaphia,' p. 194 (Upcott Gill, 1909), attributes the authorship of these well-known lines (circa 1818) to the Rev.. T. S. Grimshaw, Vicar of Biddenham, as does Murray's ' Handbook for Herts, Beds, and Hunts ' ; but doubt is thrown on this attribu- tion by the replies printed at 9 S. iv. 423, where a claim is put forward on behalf of the Rev- Robert Robinson, a Baptist minister who died in 1790.]
LAVATER IN FRENCH. Was there any French translation of J. C. Lava.ter's ' Physiognomische Fragmente ' published before 1800, except " Essai sur la Phy- siognomic. . . .traduit par Mme. de la Fite "" (La Haye, 1781-1803) ? V. STOCKLEY.
SHELLEY : SCHUBART. Prof. Zeiger, in a> pamphlet as to Shelley, says : " Either he- or his cousin Medwin came across a trans- lation of F. Schubart's fragment, ' Der ewige Jude,' in Lincoln's Inn Fields." What is known of this translation ?
V. STOCKLEY.
Newnham College, Cambridge.
