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SPUR PROVERBS : CHAUCER. The follow- ing passage occurs in fo. 90 of J. Bossewell's ' Workes of Armorie,' 1572 : " Chaucer sayeth that habite, maketh no m5cke, ne wearing of gylte Spurres, maketh no knyghte." Can any of your readers inform me where in Chaucer's works this proverb is to be met ?

Can any reader quote me any further proverbs dealing with spurs other than these ?

Plus fulgent calcaria quam altaria.

Le chevalier commence soi armer par 1'eperon, &c.

Vila in ne sait ce que valent eperons.

As true steel as Bippon rowels.

CHARLES BEARD.

69 Linden Gardens, Netting Hill Gate.

D. ROBERTS, R.A. : CATHEDRAL INTERIOR. I have a chromo -lithograph of the interior of a cathedral, described as " Abeny," by D. Roberts, R.A. Does this mean Abony, 40 miles east of Buda-Pesth ? I shall be glad to know the date and any other par- ticulars of the building depicted.

J. MOORE.

24 Jasper Road, Upper Norwood/'S.E.

THOMAS. I shall be glad if any corre- spondent can tell me (1) when and where Sir Edmund Thomas, the 2nd Baronet, died in 1723 ; (2) when and where Sir Edmund Thomas, the 3rd Baronet, died in 1789 (one authority says that he died in Jersey, and another at Southampton) ; (3) when and where Lieut. -General John Thomas, brother of the 3rd Baronet, died ; and (4) when and where William Thomas, another brother of the 3rd Baronet, died.

G. F. R. B.

GAUZE FLOWER : AUTUMN'S GLORY. Can any of your readers interested in botany identify these plants ? The former came so labelled from the North of England, and may be a local name, as I am unable to trace it in any books of horticulture in my possession. " Autumn's glory " is another name which puzzles me, but possibly it is a snowflake (Leucosius) late flowering.

Bournemouth. L. G. R.

" CID " : ITS DERIVATION. Has the follow- ing derivation of Cid ever been suggested ? The accepted derivation is from Saiyid, Sid, but in India Saiyid has become confused with Shahld, " martyr," and shrines of Shnhids are now often known as Saiyids' shrines or " places." It seems possible that a similar confusion occurred in Spain, and


that the term Cid Campeador is really a bilingual expression in which Campeador translates or. explains Cid, to which it is an equivalent. Campeador or " champion " would not translate Saiyid, " lord " or " master," at all closely ; but the earlier Shahids in Islam were " champions " who fell in defence of the faith, and their bxirial- places were styled mashhad or " place of testimonv," i.e., martyrdom.

H. A. ROSE. c/o Grindlay's, 54 Parliament Street, S.W.I.

CREST : BEAKER WANTED. A. lapwing close entwined by a serpent ; motto, " Una custodia probitas." To what family do these belong ? Fairbairn's ' Book of Crests ' affords no enlightenment, nor does Burke' s ' General Armory."

  • S. A. GRUBBY-NEWMAN.

Walsall.

CONSERVE or ROSES. P. A. Ooke's account book has an entry on New Year's Day, 1614/15, that he paid twopence for " conserve of roses " for his " wives daughter, having taken colde " (see ar,te, p. 37). Is there any contemporary recipe extant for making it ? I have tasted in Austria- Hungary an excellent " salsa" (Italian for sauce), really a kind of jam made of rose hips with plenty of sugar. It is the sauce de rigtieur with wild boar's head.

L. L. K.

MARY WADDINGTON was for sixty years the valued servant and friend of the Harrison family of Shelswell ; she died Jan. 27, 1876, aged 84. By her will she left 53SZ. 10s. 24. invested, the dividends accruing therefrom to be divided annually in the month of January among thirty of the poor and most deserving persons in Hethe parish, to be selected by the minister and churchwardens. I shall be glad of further information about her. L. H. CHAMBERS.

Bedford.

EMPRESS EUGENIE AND THE KIRK- PATRICKS OF CLOSEBURN. The interesting details about the settlement of a branch of the Kirkpatrick family in the Isle of Wight supplied by DR. WHITEHEAD (12 S. iii. 398) are quite new to me. Perhaps he would also be so kind as to refer me to some reliable source of information about the pedigree of the venerable Empress Eugenie, a descendant of the Kirkpatricks, which eeems somewhat obscure.

According to Imbert de St. Amand, ' Louis Napoleon and Mile, de Montijo '