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NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 B. VIJUNE 19, 1020:


labore, labor abit, honestum manet. Si quid feceris turpe cum voluptate, voluptas abit, turpitudo manet."

H. K. ST. J. S. has very kindly sent me the following passage from Aulus Gellius ('Noct. Att.,' X. i.):

" Adolescentuli cum etiam turn in scholis essemua, tvdvp.ytJ.a.Tiov hoc Graecum quod apposui dicium essea Musoniophilosopho audiebamus, et, quoniam vereatque luculente dictum, verbisque est brevibus et rotundis vinctum, perquam libeuter memirjera- mus :

av TL Tr/aa^ys KaAov fjifra TTOVOI;, 6 /Jtv TTOVOS TO 8e KaAov /jtevei- av n 7rotv/o->;s )v /./.era ^8ovrj<s, TO //.ev -r/Sv oi^cTat, TO 6 dicTYjobv /zevei.

He adds that "Aulus Gellius goes on to show that the maxim had been anticipated by Cato at ( ? the siege of) Numantia."

I should be obliged to any one who has access to Peerlkamp, ' C. Musonii Rufi Reliquiae et Apophthegmata ' (Harlemi, 1822), and would inform me whether the saying is given in that work in Greek or in Latin or in both languages ?

JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.

[The passage supplied by H. K. ST. J. S. including the words quoted from Musonius will be found at p. 273 f. of Peerlkamp's ' C, Musonii Rufi Reliquiae et Apophthegmata.' The jeference given there is to Aulus Cellius ' Noct. Att.,' xvi. i. Cato's Latin words to the same effect run thus : " Cogitate cum animis vestris, si quid vos per laborem recte feceritis ; labor ille a vpbis ci to recedet, bene factum a vobis, dum vivitis, non abscedet. sed si qua per volup- tatem nequiter feceritis ; voluptas cito abibit, nequiter factum illud apud vos semper manebit."

This " sententia," Aulus Gellius says, " etsi laxioribus paulo longioribusque verbis compre- hensa est, .... quoniam tamen priore tempore antiquiorque est, venerabilior videri debet." The criticism as to looseness and length might apply to Grimoald's rendering in comparison with Herbert's expression of the same thought : If thou do ill, the joy fades, not the pains : If well, the pain doth fade, the joy remains.]

MARRIAGE OF COUSINS. Is there any law or regulation ecclesiastical or secular against the marriage of (a) first cousins ; (b) second cousins ? ALFRED S. E. ACKERMANN.

THE USE OF THE ROYAL ARMS ON WAR- MEMORIAL BOARDS. My query is on similar lines to that of G. R. H. at ante, p. 250, though differing in details. Would it be illegal to place the Royal Arms of England over the Roll of Honour in the Assembly Hall cf a school, in memory of those old boys who have given their lives for their King in the Great War ? C. H. H.


SIR FRANCIS BACON AND SIR FRANCIS ; GODOLPHIN. During the reign of Queen. Elizabeth Sir Francis Bacon (a-fterwards- Lord Verulam) and Sir Francis Godolphin (son of Thomas Godolphin of Godolphin in- Cornwall, by his first wife Katherine, daughter of Edmund Bonython of Bonython also in Cornwall) were, in relation to some matter, appointed a Commission of Enquiry. The original report, signed by both, is included, I believe, in the archives cf the Record Office or the British Museum. If any of your readers could locate this docu- ment I should feel greatly obliged.

UNDER THE SOUTHERN CROSS.

' AN APOLOGY FOR THE LIFE OF THE: RIGHT HON. W. E. GLADSTONE ; OR, THE NEW POLITICS.' This book was published by Ward & Downey in 1885, price, I think, Is. 6d. Who was 'the author? There is,. I think, evidence in the book that Louis^ Jennings was not the author.

ROBERT PIERPOINT.

DUNSMORE FAMILY. I should be very grateful to any correspondent who could give me information concerning the earlier history of the Dunsmore (or Dunsmure) family.

A branch of this family was settled near- the Scottish Border about the year 1630. A. H. DINSMORE.

Bushmills, co. Antrim.

LEITH.- Who was the wife of George- Leith, 7th Laird of Barnes, co. Aberdeen (d. ante 1506), whose dau. Janet married (1) Alexander Seton of Meldrum, (.2) (after April 24, 1523), James Gordon, 3rd Laird of Abergeldie (killed at Pinkie, Sept. 10, 1557) ?

H. PlRIE-GORDON. 20 Warwick Gardens, Kensington, W.14.

ROBERT DE MORLEY AND ROBERT DE MONTALT. In the great gift, by charter dated Oct. 1, 1337, to William, Earl of Salisbury of the reversion to the vast lands- in many places of Robert de Montalt, Steward of Chester, given by the latter (for want of issue and in his lifetime) to Isabel, Queen of England for life (with reversion to John " of Eltham " Duke of Cornwall,, died 1336, s.p.), mention is made of certain other lands which the Queen held for life by the gift of Robert de Morley, " kinsman, and heir " of Robert de Montalt. The latter died s.p. in 1329, and his wife Emma had predeceased him. His inquisition also- states that Robert de Morley was his next