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NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. vn. AUG. 21, 1020.


Mme du Deffand, for instance, speaks of the Duke of Richmond as ' M. de Rich- mond;' in Letters 654,655, 656, 657, 658, 659, &c., but in Letter 661 calls him. " Le Due de Richmond." She speaks of the Due de Richelieu indifferently as " M. de Richelieu " or " le Marechal de Richelieu " in one and the same letter (e.g., Nos. 511, and 827). She herself was commonly called, not "la Mar- quise du Deffand," but " Mme du Deffand."

CINQVOYS.

Most of the novels of Dumas pere, whether in the original or in translation, illustrate this usage the calling of one and the same person Monsieur or Due, Marquis, Comte, or whatever his title might be. In one of his novels there is much about the Marechal de Richelieu mentioned in the quotation at the above reference. A. R. BAYLEY.

BARR : BAB (12 S. vii. 110, 136). Henry, Earl of Barr means Henry, Count of Bar.

Bar-le-Duc, on the river Ornain gave its name to the Comte, later the Duche, de Bar, or de Barrois. The town was in Barrois in Lorraine. The elevation to a cluchy took place about the end of 1353.

Henri iii., Comte de Bar, seigneur de Torcy en Brie, son of Thibaud ii, married at Bristol about Michaelmas 1293 Alienor of England, eldest daughter of Edward i. king of England and Alienor of Castille. Their son was Edward i. comte de Bar, and their daughter Jeanne who married John (ii) de Warennes (Warren) Earl of Surrey and of Sussex.. The arms of the counts of Bar were :

" D'azur seine" de croix, d'or recroisete"es au pied fidae", 1'ecu charge de deux bars d'or adossez."

See ' Histore Genealogique et Chrono- logique de la Maison Royale de France, de Pairs,' &c., par le P. Anselme. . . .3me edit., vol. v. 1730, pp. 498, 509 et seq.

In vol. iii, 1728, p. 478 is given the coat of arms of Guise, Duche-Pairie in which are quartered the arms of Bar. Here " deux barbeaux " appears for " deux bars." The arms of Bar have their place in many coats, e.g. those of the Dues cle Mayenne, d'Aumale, d'Elbceuf and the Comte d'Harcourt, all connected with Lorraine.

The two bars or barbeaux are two barbels. In the pictures of the arms they are two fishes, no doubt barbels.

In G.E.C.'s ' Complete Peerage ' the wife of John (deWarrenne)Earl of Surrey and of Sussex (marriage May 20, 1306) is called Joanna, only da. of Henry iii, Count of Bar,


by the Lady Eleanor Plantagenet, 1st daughter of Edward i.

According to Thomas Carte's * General History of England,' 1750 55, vol. ii. p. 304, Eleanor was the second daughter of Edward i. Before her came Joane who died in infancy. Eleanor was* affianced to Alfonso, king of Arragon. He having died she married the Count of Bar, Sept. 26, 1294. I have found no trace of a marriage of Blanche, daughter of Henry iv. of England and any Count or Duke of Bar.

According to Carte, ibid. p. 673, she was the elder daughter and married Louis Duke of Bavaria. It will be seen that Eleanor daughter of Edward i. was a quasi widow of the King of Arragon. Is there not a confusion of Bar with Bayer or Barb at us ?

In Rapin's History, 3rd edit. 1743, vol. i. 504, and in Betham's ' Genealogical Tables,' table 464, the husband of Blanch is called Lewis Barbatus, Elector Palatine.

According to Fabyan's ' New Chronicles,' Reprint 1811, p. 570, Blanche, eldest daughter of Henry iv. married in 1401 or 1402 at Coleyn " the duke's son of Bayer."

In Regum Pariumque M^agnae Britannise Historia Genealogica,' by J. W. Im-hoff, 1690, pubd. at Nuremberg, Tab. vii.,Blanca, daughter of Henry iv. married Ludov. Barbatus Elect. Pal. 1402.

It appears to be possible that Bayer or Barbatus, or both have evolved a suppositi- tious Duke of Bar.

As to the blazon of the arms in French, I think that the following may pass as an English rendering :

Az. semee of cross crosslets fitchee at the foot or, and two barbels addorsed of the last. ROBERT PIERPOINT.

Eleanor dau. of K. Edward I. married Henri (iii) Count of Bar who died 1302. He had declared for King Edward and advanced against Queen Jeanne (wife of Philippe le Bel) into Champagne in 1297. There taken prisoner, he was sent in chains to Paris, thence to Bourges and finally (1301) set free on condition of doing homage to K. Philippe.

He was succeeded by his son Edouard. His dau. Jeanne md. John ' de Warenne,' E. of Surrey and Strathearn who died s.p. 1347. The line continues from Edouard (ob. 1337) who married Marie of Burgundy, a granddau. of St. Louis, through Henri (iv), who refused to do homage to Raoul of Lorraine, to Robert, for whom the Comte