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lL'S.VJIT.ArniL23.1921.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 333 The following points may be noted : (1) There is no trace of this usage in England before the Reformation. (2) The practice is found in the Church of England to-day in some Churches where the Roman sequence of colours is followed : I know of three churches in London possessing rose- coloured sets, and there are probably more. (3) Rose-coloured vestments are also worn at Rome on Christmas Eve when Christmas falls on a Monday. S. G. JULIE BONAPARTE'S LETTERS (12 S. viii. 292). General Sir Henry Fane cap- tured the royal carriage at the Battle of Vitoria with his own regiment, the 7th Dragoon Guards, of which he was Colonel- in-Chief. The equipage was sent home and the mules (which I was told were white) were kept for many years at Pythouse in South Wiltshire, until they died, and the coach was eventually sold by the late Vere Fane-Benett-Stanford to Mme. Tussaud. I recollect seeing King Joseph's travelling clock in Pythouse some 40 years ago. My <iousin, Capt. J. M. Benett-Stanford, the present owner, writes me that he has a warrant from Napoleon conferring the title of Baron on Colonel Curto of the 9th Chasseurs a Cheval, but that he has never heard of any letters. VERE L. OLIVER, F.S.A. Weymonth. " COUNTS OF THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE " (12 S. viii. 148, 212, 273). Perhaps it may interest others besides A. A. A. to have the exact wording of a part of a Patent of Nobility granted by the Emperor of the Holy -Roman Empire. I only give an extract that bears on the issue in the female line, as that is the case in point of the query. These diplomas were, of course, always worded in Latin : Ac proinde ex certa nostra scientia, animo beiie deliberate et sano accedente concilio deque Caesareae nostra potestatis plenitudine, tibi, Lamberte Ignati de Stembert non solum nobili- tatem tuam qua a parentibus tuis hactenus gloria- baris benigne confirmamus et quatenus opus est, earn cum omnibus et singulis juribus, praercv- i gativis et piivilegiis de novo concedimus et elargimur. Verum etiam te Militem seu equitem nostrum imperialem facimus, creamus, iiominamus i et constituimus, teque pariter ac omnes liberos, haeredes, posteros ac descendentes ex legitimo matri- monio nascituros utrinsqiie sexus in numerum consortium, gradum et dignitatem nostrorum <-t Sacri Romani Imperil, Regnorumque et dominiorum nostrorum haereditariorum militcm M-U equitum assumimus, extollimus et aggre- ganrus, vosque omnes et singulos juxta sort is humanae qualitatem antiqui ordinis equestris

et tanquam ex equestri genere a quatuor avis

' paternis et maternis procreates dicimus, nomi- namus ac antiqui equestris ordinis fascibus insignamus et illustramus, &c., <fcc. My kinsman, Lambert Ignace de Stem- j bert, to vhom this Diploma was issued on the 17th of September, 1734, although a prominent citizen of Liege, a city then forming part of the Holy Roman Empire, never rendered, I am sure, any signal service to the Empire that can be compared to what Thomas Arundel achieved. Yet, al- though he was not made a Count, his de- scendants were promised or should I say guaranteed ? the same prerogatives for. ever as those of Thomas Arundel, and so were those who benefited by the tens of thousands of other diplomas that were given out during the centuries. I leave it to A. A. A. to draw his own conclusions. To me it has always appeared to be a mere Chancery formula, not specially in- vented for Thomas Arundel ; and one which was perfectly well understood, in the past, only to refer to the female 'descendants of the same name as the beneficiary. W. DEL COURT. 47, Blenheim Crescent, W.ll. ROBERT WHATLEY : JAMES STREET, WEST- MINSTER (12 S. viii. 243). In his gorgeously interesting articles re Robert Whatley, MR. BUCKLAND queries as to the " James Street, Westminster," from which his hero writes in 1720. Mr. Buckland suggests that this address was intended to convey possibly St. James's Street, where he will be found in 1737 and 1738 ; or else James Street, Haymarket, or James Street, Covent Garden. May I suggest that when Whatley wrote James Street, Westminster," he meant exactly what he said ? I now live at 36, Buckingham Gate. When I came here rather more than 21 years ago, the same block of flats was then known as 23 James Street, Westminster. Farther up the road used to stand Tart Hall, where lived that Viscount Stafford who was beheaded in the Titus Gates Plot. M. E. W. "SINGING BREAD " (12 S. viii. 269, 297). In the north. of England girdle cakes, which are cooked over the fire on flat iron plates, were called by old people until quite recently " singin' hinnies' " on account, they say, of the noise they make while being cooked. It appears to me that we need go no further for the reason why the wafer was called " singing bread." A. E. S.