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NOTES AND QtTERIES.
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by Snelling in one of his tracts on the coinage. I
fear they would be too long for the pages of " N.
& Q. ;" but a complete list of tradesmen's tokens
of the seventeenth century is very desirable, with
the names of collectors, and the districts which
their collections embrace. I have a list of Nor-
folk tokens, and another contributor to " N. &
Q." has, to my knowledge, an equally complete
Suffolk list. E. S. TAYLOR.
Ormesby St. Margaret.
Bvdsdell may be Botesdale in Suffolk, pronounced Budsdale by the native Saxons of the present day. If J. S. S. would name the tradesman of that place to whose token he refers, the matter might possibly be placed beyond doubt ; and the like might be done for Walkhampton and Dulverton, fry residents in their respective neighbourhoods.
GEO. E. FRERE.
Koyden Hall, Diss.
J. S. S. may wish to learn that the places he .mentions I take to be Bvdsdell (of which I pos- .sess one token thus spelt), formerly Buddesdale, now Botesdale, county Suffolk. Osterifield, most probably was Austenfield, county Stafford. Walk- .ham is in the Hundred of Wells, county Somer- setshire ; and I think preferable to Walk-hampton in county Devon. Also, Roell, I should say, was Rowell, county Gloucester ; but in very many in- stances, as the names are now so altered, a list would be very useful to all readers of your es- rteemed periodical. C. G.
Paddington.
One of the places inquired for is, no doubt, Botesdale, in Suffolk, pronounced to this day Budsdale ; which comes sufficiently close to the name as spelt in the Query of J. S. S., Bvdsdell.
F. C. H.
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Bells of Onzeletj (2 nd S. i. 21 3.) The six famous bells of Osney Abbey, near Oxford, whose names were Douce, Clement, Austin, Hautecter, Gabriel, and John, are mentioned by Hearne in his Collection of Discourses, preface p. Ivi., and vol. ii. p. 11. 414. The public house acquired its sign from having been built for the accommodation of bargemen and others navigating between London and Oxford. See Satirist, vol. i. p. 176. The present name, the alteration in the number of bells, and the heraldic form of the sign, are ob- vious corruptions. J. F. M.
Capital Punishments (2 nd S. i. 374.) The in- formation sought for by your correspondent will be found in two books ; first, in Grimm's Deutsche
Alterthumer, a work very generally known, and
prized by all who know it ; secondly, in another
work, not so well known as it deserves, and the
title of which I therefore give in full :
" Jacobi Dopleri Theatrum Pcenarum, Suppliciorum et Executionum Criminalium, Sonderhausen, 1693."
W. B. MACCABE.
" Lady Alice," Ballad o/(2 na S. i. 354.)
" Lady Alice was sitting in her bower window,
Mending her midnight coif: And there she saw as fine a corpse, As ever she saw in her life.
" What bear ye, what bear ye, ye six men tall?
What bear ye on your shoulders ? We bear the corpse of Giles Collins, An old and true lover of yours.
" lay him down gently, ye six men tall,
All on the grass so green. And to-morrow, before the sun goes down, Lady Alice a corpse shall be seen.
" Giles Collins was buried all in the east,
Lady Alice all in the west. And the roses* that grow on Giles Collins's grave,
They reach'd Lady Alice's breast. " The priest of the parish, he chanc'd to pass by,
And sever'd these roses* in twain. Sure never were seen such true lovers before,
Nor ever there will be again."
This old song was refined and modernised by the late Richard Westall, R.A. EDVV. HAWKINS.
Passages in Gower (2 nd S. i. 174. 221.) Of the proverbial saying, " Had I wist," I had col- lected several examples, but unfortunately have mislaid them. I can, however, supply an instance of its use from an inedited moral poem in the Lincoln MS., A. 1. 17., of the fifteenth century, f. 51 b., entitled " Lamentacio peccatoris." " In sclewythe I lay, and sclepyd stylle,
I was deavyd throw a tryst, This dredfule ded I drawe me tylle, And alle yt torned to Adywyst.
" Add I wist that wylle not bee,
I wot I mune never mere thweync ;
Vore hym that dyed for jow and me
Eyes, and rest not in 3owr synne. ;)
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Forensic Jocularity (2 nd S. i. 148.) As epi- grams and anecdotes have a double value when verified with respect to time, place, and circum- stances, it may be worth while to note that the ! cause of Orford t. Cole, to which the above epi- 1 gram relates, was tried at the Lancaster Spring j Assizes in 1818, and the point is reported in 2 Starkie, 351. J- F - M -
Approach of Vessels (2 nd S. i. 315.) Your
- correspondent, forgetting that Mauritius was^then
i a French colony, asks if the second-sighted signal 1 man, who used his faculty to the detriment of
- Lilies?
