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at her death in 1602, she left issue. To his third wife James Paget was married in June, 1581, and by her had issue two sons, William and Thomas, twins (born circa 1587, students Middle Temple, 1604), and five daughters, Barbara, Jane, Anne, Elizabeth, and Frances. He resided at Grove Place, in the parish of Nursling, co. Hants, and afterwards at Poulton, co. Wilts. He was Sheriff of Hants in 1580, and died on 7 May, 1604. For further information see Greenfield's 'Notes on Grove Place, Nursling,' 1895.

Anne Paget, only daughter of Alderman Robert Paget, married in May, 1548, Sir Henry Sherrington, brother and heir to Sir William. Sir Henry died in 1581, and his widow in 1607, leaving issue. See ' Visitation of Worcester, 1569' (Harl. Soc., p. 135).

ALP. T. EVERITT.

High Street, Portsmouth.

"SWINDLER" (9 th S. x. 127). It is much more likely that swindler comes from the German than that Schwindler goes back to the English word. Mir schwindelt means " I feel dizzy " ; and a Schwindler was originally one who acts rashly or foolishly, who ventures on something without reflection ; this is the definition Adelung (eighteenth century) gives of the German word. We must start from the substantive der Schwindel, in its primary sense dizziness, then fit of folly, foolisn action; further on anything that is not based on sound reasoning or morality was contemptu- ously so styled all that we call unsolide or unreell. Thus the German word presents the whole sense-development, while the English one shows only its last stage, and, so far as I know, no references for the preceding ones can be adduced. In short, though we may, I think, safely decline the German nationality of humbug, we must resign ourselves to that of. swindle. G. KRUEGER.

Berlin.

ARMS ON FIREBACK (9 th S. x. 29, 151). I am much interested in MR. HOLDEN MAC- MICHAEL'S reference to the old armorial fire- back within the doorway of the "Cock" Tavern, but he is in error in stating that the crest consists of the rose and cock, the piece of ironwork he took to be a rose merely being a part of the mantling, the figures on each side of the shield being intended, I believe, for pineapples, probably referring to the business of the owner, William Morys or Morrice, who is probably the Mr. Morys whose name figures in the roll of the Grocers' gmpai-*:n 1537. Mr. Philip Norman,

  • -o'A., has a reference to this fireback, under

Cocks, in his 'Old London Signs,' but a


much fuller account will be found in Mr. C. E. B. Barrett's 'Essex Highways, Bywavs, and Waterways,' p. 20, in a foot-note, under ' Quendon,' the seat for some time of John Morice, Esq., the grandson of Sir William Morice, Secretary of State to Charles II.; but, strangely enough, the author says, " The arms are Gules, a lion rampant reguardant or ; the crest, a hawk perched upon the stump of a tree or, armed and belled gules." Although this is the correct coat of the Morrice family, I cannot trace the above crest as having been borne by them ; while the strangest part of it all is, that from a very beautiful sketch of the fireback in the Guildhall Library by Mr. Barrett himself, it will be found that the crest is a bird of some sort (possibly a hawk, but on the usual torce ; no stump of a tree is shown), and is as recorded for Sir William Morris in a MS. of the ' Arms of the Nobility and Gentry of Devon,' 1689 : arms as before, "Ye crest a Falcon proper, ye Beak and Bells or."

William Morys (? the grocer) was elder brother of Evan Morys or Morice, chancellor of the diocese of Exeter, 1594.

I cannot find a pedigree of William Morrice's family in the 'Visitation of London, 1568,' but it might have been in that taken in the year 1597. I should be glad to know more of him whom he married, and what family he left. G. T. WINDYER MORRIS.

SHETLAND SONG (9 th S. x. 148). In answer to MR. N. W. THOMAS'S inquiry regarding 'Shetland New'r Even's Song,' besides the works mentioned by MR. THOMAS this is also to be found in Reid's 'Art Rambles in Shet- land,' and I arn almost sure in some other works, which, however, I cannot lay my hand on at the present moment. If MR. THOMAS would like to have a copy from Reid's ' Art Rambles,' or from any other work in which I may find it, and will send me his address, I will gladly forward it to him.

THOMAS MATHEWSON.

4, Greenfield Place, Lerwick, Shetland.

KNOCKER FAMILY (9 th S. ix. 8, 154). The Rev. Harold Cox Knocker, B.A., is the curate of Kinson with Talbot Village and Newtown ; he was formerly curate of St. John the Baptist, Woking, and in 1896-7 was chaplain at Ley sin, Switzerland. The Rev. Walter Geary Knocker is the rector of Oughtrington. He was formerly curate of St. John the Baptist, Margate, ana St. James's, Dover, was vicar of Alvanley from 1873 to 1882, and vicar of All Saints', Hindley, from 1882 to 1885, when he was inducted to his present living. He graduated