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NOTES AND QUERIES. [9* s. XL JUNK 27, 1903.


which, taken together, might easily have suggested to the Prayer-Book compilers the one in question :

" And with godis chosene regne with owten ende."

" Joye be to thee fader, and to thee sone, and to thee holygoost, as hit was in the bygynnynge and now and euere into the wordles of worldes amen."

" Fouchesauf to gife all cristene men mercy and grace in this lyf here, and alle that been dede forgefnesse and reste with owten ende."

In a prayer at the end of a * Processional ' of the nuns of Chester (1425) occurs the

phrase "that lyueth and regnethe with

owte ende in blysse. Amen."

WM. NORMAN.

6, St. James's Place, Plumstead.

AMBROSE ROOKWOOD (9 th S. xi. 5,115). With reference to this sad subject, I venture to think that the information mentioned therein, to which I was permitted to direct attention, may now be appositely supplemented by the following interesting particulars (culled from the Daily Telegraph} about the estate, and the ultimate fate of the same, of the proud Robert Catesby, the originator of " The Gunpowder Plot " in 1605 :

"The purchase by the Hon. Ivor Guest, M.P., of the estate of Ashby St. Ledgers near Rugby was effected through Messrs. Walton .& Lee, agents for Mr. H. P. Senhouse. The property has a rent- roll of nearly 2,500^. a year. For many centuries the residence was in the hands of the Catesby family, one of whom, William Catesby, the favourite of Richard III., was taken at the battle of Bosworth, and afterwards executed by Henry VII. The estate was then escheated to the Crown, but George Catesby obtained in 1495 a reversal of his father's attainder. The Catesby family continued in posses- sion of the property until the execution of Robert Catesby for the part taken by him in the plot with which his name is associated. Reverting again to the Crown, the estate was granted, in 1611, to Sir William Irving, who, in the following year, sold it to Mr. Bryan Janson. In the latter's family it remained until 1703, when it was purchased by the predecessor of the present vendor."

HENRY GERALD HOPE.

119, Elms Road, Clapham. S.W.

" To DIVE " (9 th S. xi. 230). The following, of course, proves nothing as to the custom alluded to with regard to England, but is perhaps interesting in connexion with the question. I extract it from one of my French dictionaries :

" Au hasard de la fourchette. Se disait du droit qu'on avait.dans certains etablissements, deplonger la fourchette dans le pot pour un sou, et de garder ce que Ton [en ?] amenait."

E LATHAM.

61, Friends' Road, E. Croydon.

CLEMENT'S INN REGISTERS (9 th S. xi. 448). If MR. SCATTERGOOD is interested in Clement's


Inn, he may be glad to see a curious book published some years ago by the Society of Clement's Inn, containing the ancient rules and orders for the government of the Society and the members and students thereof. I obtained a copy for the Incorporated Law Society Library, and the librarian, Mr. Boase, will no doubt produce it to your corre- spondent on application. C. T. SAUNDERS. Birmingham.

LUDLOW CLERKS (9 th S. xi. 347, 432). The reply of H. indicates the origin of the slight- ing allusion to which reference was first made ; but the Court of the Marches of Wales does not seem to have disappeared with the Long Parliament, as he supposes. The Journals of the House of Lords for 1689 contain voluminous entries concerning the progress of a Court of the Marches, Wales, Bill, designed for the abolition of this Court, and in these are various particulars concern- ing the hardships of suitors at Ludlow. A petition from Wales in favour of the measure, which was read on 1 June, 1689 ('Lords' Journals,' vol. xiv. p. 230; 'House of Lords' MSS., 1689-90,' p. 109), includes, indeed, an expression which would appear to justify the severe Welsh condemnation of " the head clerks of Ludlow " already quoted, this being " From plague, pestilence, and the name of Ludlow Court, Good Lord, deliver us !"

ALFRED F. BOBBINS.

UPRIGHT BURIAL (9 th S. xi. 465). This subject has been already undertaken by 'N. & Q.,' and the example of the Claphams and Mauleverers duly cited ; but, as far as I remember, nothing has been said of the following instance of abnormal interment, which I found mentioned in the Church Monthly for December, 1902, p. 279 :

" There are five vaults under St. Michan'sfDublin]. In one the Osborne family are buried standing on their feet. Six coffins, bearing the family arms, ' quarterly ermine, and as a cross engrel or' [? quar- terly, ermine and az. a cross engrailed or], set up on end, are shut within an iron gate." The vaults at St. Michan's have an antiseptic quality which preserves the colour of velvet- covered coffins, keeps their silver trappings bright, and also mummifies the corpses.

ST. SWITHIN.

FOLK-LORE OR BOTANY (9 th S. xi. 148). In this part it is a popular belief that Lycoris radiata, Herbert, grows out of the human corpse ; and, in fact, it abounds in burying- grounds, and is called "dead man's flower" (Shibitobana). Regardless of its beautiful red colour, people never use it in the art of flower arrangement. This inauspicious plant