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centuries to designate the oldest English
barony Ros or Roos of Hamlake merits
respect, although even in this connexion it
is questionable if ffelmesley were not the first
designation ; for, as already quoted, " Wil-
lielmo de Ros" was in the earlier instance
described as " de Helmesley," and in the later
instance as " de Hemelak."
That the place, apart from the barony, should so well have retained its original nomen- clature, Jfelmsley, meaning "a forest glade distinguished by a large elm tree," is a matter for congratulation. W. L. BUTTON.
27, Elgin Avenue, W.
" CROSS " VICE " KRIS " (9 th S. i. 85, 317, 458 ; ii. 36, 256). At the last reference the following passage is quoted from Bouterwek's ' Spanish Literature ':
" Amidst the euphony of the Castilian syllables, the ear is, however, struck with the sound of the German and Arabic guttural, which is rejected by all the other nations speaking languages in which the Latin predominates."
Had the author never heard the Tuscan dialect, in which the aspirates are quite as strong as in Spanish ? I believe that they do not occur in any other Italian dialect. V.
Ascot.
" HUCKLER," A DANCE (9 th S. ii. 149). With regard to the origin of the name, huckle= hip in various dialects. See Halliwell's 'Diet, of Archaic and Provincial Words.'
ARTHUR MAYALL.
EPISCOPAL FAMILIES (8 th S. xii. 185, 316 ; 9 th S. i. 76 ; ii. 93). The relationship between George Carleton, Bishop of Chichester, and Guy Carleton, bishop of the same see, is set forth in the pedigree of Carleton of Carleton Hall, on p. 97 of the ' History and Antiqui- ties of Leath Ward, in the County of Cum- berland,' by Samuel Jefferson. Thus :
XIV. Thomas Carleton, son and heir [of Thomas de Carleton], married Anne, daughter of Thomas Layton, of Dalemain, in the county of Cumberland, Esq. ; he died in the fourth year of Queen Mary, anno 1556, leaving issue
1. Thomas, his successor.
2. Guy, Governor of Norham Castle, co. North- umberland, who had issue George, Lord Bishop of Chichester, died 1628.
XV. Thomas Carleton, son and heir, married
Mabel, daughter of Carlisle, of Carlisle, Esq. ;
and died in the twenty-ninth year of Queen Eliza- beth, anno 1586, leaving issue
1. Thomas, his successor.
2. Lancelot, of Brampton Foot, in the Barony of Gillesland, co. Cumberland, born 1549 ; married Eleanor, daughter of Roger Kirkby, of Kirkby-in- Furness, co. Lancaster, Esq. From this gentleman were descended Guy Carleton, D.D., Dean of Car- lisle, 1660, ; Prebendary of Durham, 1660 ; Bishop of Bristol, 1671; translated to Chichester, 1678;
died July 6, 1685, aged 89; and Guy Carleton,
created Baron Dorchester, 1786.
The fact that Guy the bishop matriculated at Queen's College, Oxford, in May, 1625, aged twenty, suggests a doubt whether he was son or grandson of Lancelot, the cousin of Bishop George. But the family connexion is clearly traced. RICHARD WELFORD.
One of the Carletons was a curate or rector in Berks. EMMA ELIZ. THOYTS.
HORACE WALPOLE AND HIS EDITORS (8 th S. xi. 346, 492; xii. 104, 290, 414,493; 9 th S. i.91 ; ii. 75). In a letter to G. Montagu, dated 1 Oct., 1747 (Cunningham's ed., vol. ii. p. 95), Horace Walpole writes : " I wish I could have an- swered your invitation from the Tigress's with my own person," &c. Later on, in Sep- tember, 1748 (vol. ii. p. 128), he refers to a proposed visit to " the Tigers' "; while in a letter to G. Montagu of 21 May, 1754, we read :
" I am sure, though both you and I had reason to be peevish with the poor tigress, that you will grieve with me for her death. I do most sincerely, and for her Bessy : the man-tiger will be so sorry that I am sure' he will marry again to comfort himself."
The " Tiger " and " Tigress " have not, I think, been identified ; but in a quotation from one of Montagu's letters to Waljpole, printed in the Eighth Report (Appendix, pt. ii. p. 118 a) of the Hist. MSS. Commission, allusion is made to "Tyger Talbot's daughter." The Talbots were friends of Montagu and Walpole, as may be gathered from several allusions in Walpole's ' Letters ' (vol. ii. pp. 122, 126), so that from Montagu's ex- pression it may be assumed that the "Tiger" and "Tigress" were nicknames given to Mr. and Mrs. Talbot. The death of Mrs. Talbot, "wife of Henry Talbot, Esq., a Salt Com- missioner," on 15 May, 1754 (see Gentleman's Magazine), taken in conjunction with the date of Horace Walpole's reference already quoted to the death of the " poor tigress," establishes the identity of the "Tiger" and "Tigress" with Mr. and Mrs. Henry Talbot, son and daughter-in-law of William Talbot, Bishop of Durham. Mrs. Talbot, the day of whose death is recorded by Collins ('Peerage,' vol. "*. p. 234) as 17 May, was a daughter of Sir Hugh Clopton, Knt. Presumably the "Bessy" referred to by Walpole would be her step- daughter Elizabeth, daughter of Henry Talbot's first wife, Elizabeth Lloyd (Collins, ' Peerage,' vol. v. p. 233).
Writing to Sir H. Mann on 30 Jan., 1757 (vol. iii. p. 59), Horace Walpole quotes a letter purporting to be written by " an old tar " to
