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ticulars of some of these meads, which may possibly be of use to MR, PLATT, Having told us that " their ordinary Drink is a kind of small Mead they call Quaz, besides which they never fail to take a dram of Aqua Vitce both before and after their Meals," he describes their manner of keeping their " Strong Beer, which they brew in March" and then adds :

"French and Rhenish Wines being too weak for a Muscovite Stomach they rather admire a sort of strong Hydromel, which they order with Cherries, Strawberries, Mulberries, or Rasberries ; the last


of which is the most pleasant of all To give it a

good Flavour, they put in sometimes a little Bag with Cinnamon, Grains of Paradise, and a few Cloves ; some make an Infusion of the Rasberries with Aqua Vitce, instead of Water."

The question naturally arises, Are any of the ingredients of these drinks indicated by the names Cherunk and Obarne ? The former suggests cherries to the uninformed mind.

C. C. B.

SOCIETY OF DILETTANTI, FOUNDED IN LONDON 1734 (9 th S. iii. 368). The old "coloured " print the subject of MR. GEO. E. CRISP'S query, has nothing to do with the Dilettanti Society, but represents u Benn's Club," " a well-known Society of Worthy Aldermen, from an Original Painting by T. Hudson, in Goldsmiths' Hall London." It and the copy of it are described by J. C. Smith in his 'British Mezzotinto Portraits,' vol. i. pp. 312-13, where the names of the personages represented are given, with other details, too numerous and of too little general interest to justify their repetition in this place. Cf. also Bromley. The prints were not published " coloured."

JULIAN MARSHALL.

ST. JORDAN (5 th S. iii. 129 ; 9 th S. iii. 207 349). That the chapel of St. Jordan on College Green, Bristol, mentioned by Leland might, as MR. G. E. WEARE suggests, have been built by Jordan, brother of Robert fitz Harding, or erected as a memorial to him, i. v certainly not improbable. He may in hi* old age have been a canon in the adjoining abbey founded by his brother, or have buil this chapel with a hermitage to retire thereir from the world. Beyond the fact that he was a witness to several charters nothing is knowr about him, but Mr. W. Hunt points out tha John, son of Jordan, son of Harding, a citizen of Dublin at the end of the twelfth century was seemingly his son (" Historic Towns, ' Bristol,' p. 25) the holy (" sanctus ") Jordan not Sanctus with a capital until by lapse o time and the mistake of a scribe.

I suspect the Christian name of Jordar originated in the Fitzharding family from som relationship to Jordan de Briset, throug]


laurioe, Bishop of London. This Jordan de Mset was the founder of the priories of lerkenwell, and one of the earliest of the lame in England (see my note in 'K. & Q.,' th S. vi. 366). This Christian name, although absent in Domesday Book, became very com- mon among the sons of those mentioned herein. Perhaps I may be allowed to remark icre that last December Mr. J. H. Round read a paper before the Society of Anti- quaries, " and showed that Jordan de Briset lad not been identified, and proceeded to dentify him as the younger son of a Domes- lay undertenant" (Athenceum, 10 Dec.). Iain sorry to say I have forestalled him in this in print at least by more than four years, as the note above referred to will prove. It is clear ' N. & Q.' and its capital indexes are not so often referred to as they deserve.

That even St. Augustine might have brought over with him a monk named Jor- dan is rendered possible by the fact that a hundred years or so after his time the name occurs. In 726 was slain at Rome one Jordan, keeper of the records (Ordericus Vitalis, Bohn ed., i. 361). This was very long before the Crusades. A. S. ELLIS.

Westminster.

Jordanus (Jordan), as a prefix or Christian name, is not unfrequentlv met with in writings of the twelfth and thirteenth cen- turies respectively. The name, which origin- ated in the period of the early pilgrimages to the Holy Land, was apparently associated with a prevalent belief in the virtues of the waters of the Jordan. A reference to the origin of the name will be found in ' History of Christian Names,' by Miss C. M. Yonge, vol. i. p. 100. G. E. WEARE.

THE REAL JENEAS (9 th S. ii. 444 ; iii. 74, 132). James Smith's verses (if they be his) are but a reproduction of a passage in Steele's Tatler, No. 6, 1709, q.v.:

"Virgil's common epithet to ^Eneas is pius or

pater his meeting with Dido in the cave, where

pius JEneas would have been absurd, and pater JEneas a burlesque. The poet has therefore wisely dropped them both for Dux Trojanus."

W. C. B.

" GULDIZE " (9 th S. iii. 347). This means the harvest feast, and takes place on the principal corn-carrying day that is, after the corn has been gathered into the mowhay or farmyard. In Bottrell's 'Traditions and Hearth-Side Stories of West Cornwall ' 1 870-3 the word is given as goolthise, and in the Scilly Isles as nicklethise. The earliest men- tion of the word that I know of is in Bor- lase's * Cornish Vocabulary,' 1754, where it