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NOTES AND QUERIES. p** s. v. JAN. 13, 1900.


was buried in the old church, Clapham also lives of his son John, rector of Clapham (whose daughter Jane was the mother of Mr. Leslie Stephen and his brother Sir James Fitzjames Stephen) ; and of his grandson, Prebendary Henry Venn, of St. John's, Holloway, who died 18 January, 1873.

I cannot find a Lord Mountford. Probably MR. ASHLEY-COOPER means Henry Bromley, Lord Montfort. Short biographies of this nobleman, his ancestors and descendants, will be found in peerages of the time, notably the 'Ne\v Peerage,' 1778, &c., arid Collins's, 1779, &c. He was born 20 August, 1705 ; succeeded to the paternal and maternal estates on the death of his father John Bromley, October, 1718 ; married Frances, daughter of Thomas Wyndham and sister and sole heir of Sir Francis Wyndham, of Trent, co. Somerset, Bart., by whom he had a son Thomas, born 1733, and a daughter Frances, who married, 1747, the Hon. Charles S. Cadogan, afterwards first Earl of Cadogan. The said Henry Bromley was M.P. for Cam- bridgeshire in the Parliaments of 1727 and 1734. Created Lord Montfort, Baron of Horseheath, Cambridgeshire, 9 May, 1741. He died 1 January, 1755, and was buried in Trinity Chapel, South Audley Street, London. Succeeded by his son Thomas, second Lord Montfort. Peerage extinct 1851.

HERBERT B. CLAYTON.

It may help MR. ASHLEY- COOPER to an answer to his query about the name Mount- foi'd to state that it is, or was, a regular Christian name in the family of Longfield, well known amongst the leading landed gentry in the south of the co. Cork. An old gentleman tells me he recollects at least two of the name amongst his schoolfellows in the town of Bandon, and he thinks there was an eminent judge of that name in the Irish Landed Estate Court forty or fifty years ago. FRANCESCA.

The Rev. John Venn wrote the life of his father, and a selection from his letters was published with it. The seventh edition was printed in 1853. The editions of 'The Corn- pleat Duty of Man ' issued in 1838, 1839, and 1859 contain a memoir of the author, Mr. Venn.

The title of Mountford I cannot find ; but if it is intended for (Bromley) Lord Mont- fort, Collins's 'Peerage' and Burke's 'Extinct Peerage ' will give information.

JOHN RADCLIFFE.

" BY THE HAFT " (9 th S. iv. 287, 355). The following occurs in a foot-note to p. 227, vol. iij. of Scott's. ' Minstrelsy of the Scottish


Border': "Touching the hilt of a warrior's sword was regarded as an acknowledgment of subjection." The reference is to an incident it the Court of Harald Harfager of Norway, ,vho, by accident, so took a gift-sword from

he ambassador of King Adelstein in 925 A.D.

Readers of Mr. Kipling will remember a similar incident narrated in one of his stories I think it is in ' The Back of the Beyond '), where an Indian chief touches the hilt of a British colonel's sword also in token of .oyalty. Can any of your readers adduce other instances, or in any way show some link between these identical rites, so widely separate in time and place ? J. H. C.

DOUBLE-NAME SIGNATURES FOR PEERS (9 th S. iv. 399 . 487, 529). Lord Lytton, in his 'What will he do with It 1 ?' says, when

peaking of the family of his hero Guy Dar- rell, and of the intended marriage of his

laughter and heiress with the Marquis of Montfort :

" It was an euthanasia for the old Knightly race to die into a House that was an institution in the empire, and revive pho3nix-like in a line of peers who might perpetuate the name of the Heiress whose quarterings they would annex to their own, and sign themselves Darrell Montfort"

F. E. R. POLLARD-URQUHART. Craigston Castle, Turriff, N.B.

Lord Byron, when he married, prefixed the name of his wife's family to his title, and signed his name "Noel Byron." I suppose that, when his wife dropped him, he dropped her name. E. YARDLEY.

LINCOLNSHIRE SAYINGS (9 th S. iv. 478). "As black as the devil's nutting-bag" is a saying by no means confined to Lincolnshire. It is, at least, a Berkshire and Somersetshire phrase, the allusion being to the devil's use of a nuthook as a catchpole or bailiff, and to the necessarily sable hue of the devil's appurten- ances. J. HOLDEN MACMlCIIAEL.

"ELIXIR VIT.E" IN FICTION (9 th S. iv. 187, 257). Add the Cagliostro scene in Dumas's 'Queen's Necklace.' I believe the scene is lifted bodily from somewhere else, but cannot trace it. EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.

Hastings.

"NONE." (9 th S. iv. 439, 544). Whoever, on grammatical grounds, objects to " none are ripe" should, in consistency, equally object to " any men," any being the adjective of dn, " one." Moreover, how many are blind to the fact that grammar is determined by usage !

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